Posted on 05/23/2014 4:17:44 PM PDT by don-o
Today as I returned from Detroit, I had a moment that I truly felt was God sent, as I don’t believe in coincidences. It happened on one of my flights, and it was two hours I will never forget.
I was seated beside someone who personally knew one of the men who was there on the roof in Benghazi. This person was excited to share with me the “ground truth” of what happened September 11, 2012.
My seat mate drew schematics to orient me to the “time and spacing” and the direction of the attack. I learned about the repeated orders to the men at the CIA annex to stand down and do nothing — thank God two of them, Glenn Doherty and Ty Woods, lived up to their code of honor and ran to the sound of the guns, resulting in their loss of life — but the preservation of life for others, their fellow Americans.
I learned about the proximity of the staging area of the attack to the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, and the attackers were indeed Ansar al-Sharia, a group affiliated with al-Qaida. I came to understand why Ambassador Chris Stevens was there in the first place and that he had in fact requested better security but was denied – the question is, by whom? And I learned that the Martyrs of 17 February Brigade were in charge of security and were the ones who opened the gates, then fled.
I learned there are those who are being threatened with their pensions being cut off if they come forth to speak.
And I learned, as I presumed, that there was a covert weapons scheme going on in Libya, Benghazi.
(Excerpt) Read more at allenbwest.com ...
I had read that the weapons buy back was a hillary op.She reportedly gave 40 million to buy back 400 manpads(shoulder fired rockets) that were lost when she went cheap on guarding the thousands of manpads they stole from gdaffi.
The swap for the blind sheik is what I read in a 45 page doc I still am not comofortable talking about but west says its not a kidnapping op wonder what it is?
First of all, I don't think West is revealing anything new. Apparently he is providing some sort of cover for his source, but would West use of the words “God sent" in a completely fabricated cover story?
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“The House has established a Select Committee — quite telling that the same has not been done in the Senate — and those involved, to include the President, MUST appear before Rep. Trey Gowdy.”
Senate Republicans want to focus on Rice and the video ... Diversion?
Graham wants Senate Benghazi panel
May 15, 2014
Graham has accused the Obama administration of incompetence in handling the attacks, which killed an American ambassador and three others.
On Thursday, he focused his criticism on then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. Specifically, Graham questioned why then-United Nations Ambassador Susan Rice — and not Clinton — commented about the attacks on TV the Sunday after they occurred.
Republicans say Rice’s comments — that the attacks appeared to spontaneously arise from a protest over an anti-Muslim Internet video — show the White House deliberately misled the public in order to shield President Barack Obama from criticism ahead of the 2012 election. The attacks ultimately were proven to be a planned terrorist act.
Flashback:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23849587
Syria crisis: Where key countries stand
It was Prince Bandar’s intelligence agency that first alerted Western allies to the alleged use of sarin gas by the Syrian regime in February.
While a trip earlier this month to the Kremlin to try to cajole President Vladimir Putin into withdrawing his support for President Assad reportedly failed, Prince Bandar automatically has greater leverage in Western capitals, not least because of friendships forged during his time in Washington. His most recent travels, rarely advertised, have taken him to both London and Paris for discussions with senior officials.
As ambassador, Prince Bandar left an imprint that still has not quite faded. His voice was one of the loudest urging the United States to invade Iraq in 2003. In the 1980s, Prince Bandar became mired in the Iran-Contra scandal in Nicaragua.
Months of applying pressure on the White House and Congress over Syria have slowly born fruit. The CIA is believed to have been working with Prince Bandar directly since last year in training rebels at base in Jordan close to the Syrian border.
The Saudis are “indispensable partners on Syria” and have considerable influence on American thinking, a senior US official told The Wall Street Journal yesterday. He added: “No one wants to do anything alone”.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323423804579024452583045962.html
The Saudi ambassador, Mr. Jubeir, has long been courting members of Congress who could pressure the administration to get more involved in Syria. He found early support from Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.
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Mr. Petraeus in mid-2012 won White House approval to provide intelligence and limited training to Syrian rebels at the base, including in the use of arms provided by others. Saudi and Jordanian agents began vetting the fighters to be trained, said Arab diplomats and a former U.S. military official.
Prince Bandar has largely stayed out of Washington but held meetings with U.S. officials in the region. One was in September 2012. Sens. McCain and Graham, who were in Istanbul, met him in an opulent hotel suite on the banks of the Bosporus.
Mr. McCain said he made the case to Prince Bandar that the rebels weren’t getting the kinds of weapons they needed, and the prince, in turn, described the kingdom’s plans. The senator said that in succeeding months he saw “a dramatic increase in Saudi involvement, hands-on, by Bandar.”
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That winter, the Saudis also started trying to convince Western governments that Mr. Assad had crossed what President Barack Obama a year ago called a “red line”: the use of chemical weapons. Arab diplomats say Saudi agents flew an injured Syrian to Britain, where tests showed sarin gas exposure. Prince Bandar’s spy service, which concluded in February that Mr. Assad was using chemical weapons, relayed evidence to the U.S., which reached a similar conclusion four months later. The Assad regime denies using such weapons.
After Mr. Petraeus’s November resignation over an affair, his job was handled by his deputy, Michael Morell, who privately voiced skepticism the agency could make sure any arms supplied by the U.S. wouldn’t end up with hard-line Islamists, said congressional officials.
Ultimately, the new CIA chief was John Brennan, whose closest Saudi confidant when he was White House counterterrorism adviser was also focused on the risk of inadvertently strengthening al Qaeda. Since moving to the CIA, Mr. Brennan has been in periodic contact by phone with Prince Bandar, officials said.
Published: October 14, 2012
American officials have been trying to understand why hard-line Islamists have received the lion’s share of the arms shipped to the Syrian opposition through the shadowy pipeline with roots in Qatar, and, to a lesser degree, Saudi Arabia. The officials, voicing frustration, say there is no central clearinghouse for the shipments, and no effective way of vetting the groups that ultimately receive them.
Those problems were central concerns for the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, David H. Petraeus, when he traveled secretly to Turkey last month, officials said.
The C.I.A. has not commented on Mr. Petraeus’s trip, made to a region he knows well from his days as the Army general in charge of Central Command, which is responsible for all American military operations in the Middle East. Officials of countries in the region say that Mr. Petraeus has been deeply involved in trying to steer the supply effort, though American officials dispute that assertion.
One Middle Eastern diplomat who has dealt extensively with the C.I.A. on the issue said that Mr. Petraeus’s goal was to oversee the process of “vetting, and then shaping, an opposition that the U.S. thinks it can work with.” According to American and Arab officials, the C.I.A. has sent officers to Turkey to help direct the aid, but the agency has been hampered by a lack of good intelligence about many rebel figures and factions.
In an interview with radio host Laura Ingraham in January 2013, Boehner was asked about reported weapons transfers raised by Sen. Rand Paul during questioning of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Benghazi. The speaker responded: “I’m somewhat familiar with the chatter about this and the fact that these arms were moving towards Turkey, but most of what I know about this came from a classified source, and really can’t elaborate on it.”
Fox News asked the speaker’s office to clarify his comments to Ingraham, in light of the Benghazi relatives’ letter, specifically whether Boehner was briefed on the covert operations in Libya, and if those briefings covered weapons transfers.
Boehner’s spokesman emphasized that no one has been more dedicated to laying out the facts about Benghazi, adding: “The Speaker does not ever discuss classified information in public. In this case, he simply said he was aware of the rumors that were circulating publicly.”
During her January testimony on Benghazi, Paul pressed Clinton on the weapons issue, referring to reports that weapons from Libya were moving to the Syrian opposition via Turkey. “Is the U. S. involved with any procuring of weapons, transfer of weapons, buying, selling, anyhow transferring weapons to Turkey out of Libya?”
“To Turkey?” Clinton asked. “I will have to take that question for the record. Nobody has ever raised that with me.”
“It’s been in news reports that ships have been leaving from Libya and that may have weapons,” Paul continued.
“And what I’d like to know is the annex that was close by, were they involved with procuring, buying, selling, obtaining weapons, and were any of these weapons being transferred to other countries, any countries, Turkey included?”
Clinton replied: “Well, senator, you’ll have to direct that question to the agency [CIA] that ran the annex. I will see what information is available.”
“You’re saying you don’t know?” asked Paul.
“I do not know,” Clinton said. “I don’t have any information on that.”
March 24, 2013
With help from the C.I.A., Arab governments and Turkey have sharply increased their military aid to Syria’s opposition fighters in recent months, expanding a secret airlift of arms and equipment for the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad, according to air traffic data, interviews with officials in several countries and the accounts of rebel commanders.
The airlift, which began on a small scale in early 2012 and continued intermittently through last fall, expanded into a steady and much heavier flow late last year, the data shows. It has grown to include more than 160 military cargo flights by Jordanian, Saudi and Qatari military-style cargo planes landing at Esenboga Airport near Ankara, and, to a lesser degree, at other Turkish and Jordanian airports.
December 22, 2011
How to Control Libya Missiles? Buy Them Up
Assistant Secretary of State Andrew J. Shapiro raised the American desire to arrange a purchase program in a meeting this month with Libya’s new defense minister, according to American officials familiar with the proposal.
The United States has committed $40 million to secure Libya’s arms stockpiles, much of it to prevent the spread of Manpads. No budget has been designed for a purchase program, and the price to be paid for each missile and its components has not been determined, the official said.
There is really no question about the missiles —there were 21,000 in Libya, but the number transferred to “Syrian Rebels” was 50 minimum, confirmed.
The actual number is likely higher than just 50, but it would only take a single sample at the end of JFK to precipitate a huge tragedy.
So the ongoing Bengazi operation was about that, sure, no doubt about it, in addition to other small arms and material support.
But the attack really could also be about an intended pre-election swap gone bad —that is only a possibility.
Really, why else did they start the video apologies in Cairo at that very early point...? I mean, it was well before anything at all happened in Bengazi.
It just doesn’t make sense unless something ELSE big was slated to later begin and they wanted to get the mind of the public moving in that direction for cover.
I love Alan West, but I have my doubts about his chance encounter. Not that he had one, mind you, but that his source was voicing good info.
The man was going to write an ARTICLE about it —is there any doubt that the digital records would quickly easily permit BigBrother to ID his source in less than 5 minutes...?
This article from a prominent military man only make sense if he protected his source by lying about the technical details of the encounter.
Let’s shift gears:
Recall that when the images of our soot-faced Ambassador surfaced, the VERY high-handed eagerness of Hillary to, “THANK these kind men who were trying to *HELP* our poor Ambassador, and who screamed Allah Akbar cuz they were HAPPY HE WAS STILL ALIVE”.
Why did Hillary do that?
Because...
1. She knew very well that point would be her first and last chance to dispel widespread public doubts those men were trying to HELP him (Good Samaritans rarely high-five once another and snicker like they just cuckolded the local Sheriff)
2. She knew those men were kidnappers
And lastly:
If those men were RESCUERS, then WHY did they take him to a hospital controlled by Al Qaeda, hmmmmm....? Why were they SO careful to video their “rescue”..? It’s almost like they UNDERSTAND there will later be a prisoner negotiation and that they’ll be needing Proof of Life:
Verrry many parts of this story ONLY make sense if shadowy parts of the US Gummint **KNEW** this attack was supposed to occur.
My guess is that the attackers were very surprised there was ANY armed resistance that night and later suspected they had been inexplicably double-crossed by Hillary, Night-Stalker and GayMuzzie.
Why that night were there so many “NonStandDownOrder-ish Stand Down Orders”...?
“I never told him to Stand-Down, I simply forbade QRF to get on the plane to Bengazi, which then LEFT WITHOUT THEM..!”
Why...?
Because the plan conceived at the highest levels was and had been to arrange for ZERO armed resistance that night —so that the “episode would GO WELL”.
Indeed, the front gate was LITERALLY opened by the local security bums we had hired there in town.
How much MORE obvious could the actual objective of the Bengazi Attack BE....?
It is slapping us in the face.
It's stranger and stranger the more I think of the timing on his releasing this, laying aside the credibility of what actually happened. Late Friday on a three day weekend. That's an old trick for dumping info that needs to be out there but taken no notice of. It's mysterious.
Thanks Maggie. A lot of dots that connect very well!
Good point but what better way to get information on the record so it can be revisited at a later time. Is West working with the committee so they can question ( and possibly set up perjury) the main characters?
“Really, why else did they start the video apologies in Cairo at that very early point...?” well, elementsd in Egypt may well have been the force which struck the compound, after finding out that this regime was diverting weaponry the Egyptian connections had located in Libya and the Egyptian faction was to be left hi and dry, no weapons and perhaps no money for their work, so they took what they wanted. The American regime cannot afford to have that kind of fecklessness by them made public so they lie and keep on lying.
Okay, that just made me laugh out loud. Paradijim.
A couple of observations: (1) I agree with your theory. West knows OpSec. (2) To those who keep saying this is an "I know a guy who knows a guy" story, re-read the article. West says he spoke to someone whose friend was on the roof. This person on the roof is one of the two dead. This does not mean the person West was speaking with was not there at the compound. Could be a survivor.
Following the hostage swap theory which I too believe is what happened. The terror types,ansar al sharia, were told that they could go in and take Stevens out in ten minutes and it would be over.They would then swap him for the blind sheik and zero would negotiate the swap increasing his numbers for the upcoming election. And... he would be a hero with his terror buddies for the return of the blind sheik.
All This is perfectly consistent with our regime.The chicago thugocracy bases everything on power, holding power and achieving their goals at any cost.
Hours later and after losing 60 of their men the terror types reportedly thought they had been double crossed by hillary et all and did what they do best to gay infidels. They took Stevens rouged him up sodomized him repeatedly and dumped him at the Benghazi medical center.
As you say it too was controlled by al qaida and reports of his condition when he was brought there vary. Some say he was already dead. Others say he was barely alive and given a hotshot to finish him off. We may never know what actually happened.
My info is that the security that Stevens had was compromised and actually controlled by the terror types and put there by hillary.
NO wonder she never answered any calls for increased security and didn't dare put in marines. The State dept. claimed it would be too expensive to use marines! No problem coming up with 40 mill for lost manpads however. What bullshit.
My reports are that val/jar ordered the stand-down since zero was otherwise occupied with a ten year old and some heavy drugs.Wouldn't have mattered anyway. Val/jar runs things day after day. She Always has.
The planning needed to get the film made and ready for youtubery, plus the prior plans to use it by person or persons now high in the regime points to a pl;anned operation set to unfold on 9/11 Add the presence of the Turkish envoy having dinner int he compound with Stevens and you have a tidy package of a planned kidnapping, using Stevens to build little barry bastard boy’s reputation, fashioning an Iranian hostage crisis handled masterfully by little bastard barry rather than the way Carter dithered. It smells too much like Brennanism run amok. He’s not in Chicago anymore, kids!
While pondering the following points, ask yourself how all these things WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE:
1. Numerous Bengazi security requests ignored
2. Local security OPENED the Consulate front gate for attackers, who stated Hillary’s friend SENT THEM
3. After locals are seen reconnoitering the facility, nothing is done and the IT guy is predicting his death in a gamer chat room.
4. SEALS lasing ground targets despite no armed aircraft nearby
5. No rescue planes sent from outside Libya
6. Flight plans of planes inside Libya are cancelled.
7. Hillary is eager to term kidnappers are rescuers and to lavishly thank them
8. Nikoula excuse trundled out in blindingly fast reaction time
9. WH called YouTube PRIOR to the earliest time the WH claimed CIA had attributed the attack to a YT video
10. CIA survivors re-NDA’ed, legally re-named and transferred all over the world, some threatened
OK, so:
What important bit of treachery would bring all those things together IN LOGIC..?
Those are just 10 things that occur to me off the top of my head —there are plenty more.
People are marvelling about how these things do NOT make sense when in fact they should be pondering how these things WOULD make treacherous sense.
I was thinking the same thing. This meeting was not accidental. Who is running this story, and to what end, is the question.
Excellent point!
This does not mean the person West was speaking with was not there at the compound. Could be a survivor.
Agree. And a survivor would want to reveal info to someone he could trust, who has actually been in battle. Hence Allan West in whatever manner that occurred.
“Maybe West is protecting his real source by using this plane ride scenario as a way to get it out there.”
Good point. Send the NSA on a wild goose chase, but still get the information out there.
Heads up! He’s about to be on Fox and Friends this morning.
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