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To: ansel12
Not so.

Government initially got into the marriage business because it generated license fees, blood testing fees and the like. Most of this came about in the later part of the 19th century.

Before that, it was churches which recorded marriages and the government simply recognized them.

It may not work that way now with all the faux churches performing faux marriages, but it couldn't possibly work any worse than the road we're heading down.

24 posted on 05/19/2014 12:57:12 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

If I were a betting man I would bet a 6-3 vote next year giving with the US Supreme Court destroying the institution of marriage. Alito, Scalia, and Thomas dissenting. I think both Kennedy and the worthless Roberts will vote for the destruction of marriage as we know it. We know Kennedy will. He gave the country homo “marriage” when he ruled sodomy was legal in Texas. And if Roberts is a closet-case himself, like most believe, no doubt he goes right along with the other radicals. Thank George W. Bush, the RINO, with choosing a man with 3 years experience as a judge, for not just a US Supreme Court Judge position, but the chief justice, spitting in the face of Alito and Scalia, and Thomas. Thanks little george, you worthless POS.


27 posted on 05/19/2014 1:01:34 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: Vigilanteman
Government initially got into the marriage business because it generated license fees, blood testing fees and the like. Most of this came about in the later part of the 19th century.

How many times does that have to be corrected? The marriage license is many, many centuries old about 8 centuries, and was mandatory in Massachusetts since the 1600s for example, Thomas Jefferson bought one for his marriage in Virginia where the law was that it had to be purchased in the county the bride lived in, George Washington paid for the marriage license for his favorite nephew, the federal government was passing legislation on marriage in the 1780s, and 1790s.

Before that, it was churches which recorded marriages and the government simply recognized them. It may not work that way now with all the faux churches performing faux marriages, but it couldn't possibly work any worse than the road we're heading down.

Couldn't work any worse? Mormons, Mosques, cults, gay churches, animal cults, satanic cults, defining legal marriage on their own?

Either marriage is legal, or not, and that has always been so, whether the controlling authority was Greece, or Rome, or tribal, or Islam, or the Catholic church, or English law, or whatever, if you don't care if your marriage complies with law, then don't, you had that option 500 years ago, and a 100 years ago, and you have it today.

Do you really think marriage is forbidden to the non religious in America, and that Mosques and churches will be handling divorce law?

36 posted on 05/19/2014 1:22:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Vigilanteman

This road is taking us to the government regulation of religion in a back door way.

Eventully those religions that neither respect homosexuality or gay marriage will be outlawed and religions will be required to conform to the standards of the state on sexuality.

Its the indirect method to the USSR and Nazi Germany’s standards on religion.


54 posted on 05/19/2014 2:05:47 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Vigilanteman

you are aware that the Govt has been involved in marriage since the founding fathers and that when one goes for a divorce the churches do not have the power to say who gets the kids, house and dog etc.

Govt out of it is a straw man crap IMHO.


122 posted on 05/20/2014 2:48:39 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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