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Pope Francis Says He Would Definitely Baptize Aliens If They Asked Him To
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Posted on 05/13/2014 9:35:11 AM PDT by marthemaria

Pope Francis would absolutely baptize an alien from Mars, if one showed up at the Vatican and asked for it. During his weekly homily on Monday, Franics said that aliens — which he imagines could be "Green, with that long nose and big ears, just like children paint them" — should be baptized just like anyone else who asks for it, because it's not up to any human to decide who should receive the Holy Spirit.

In other words: if God prompts some Martians to come to Earth, find the Pope, and say "we want in on this Catholicism thing." The pope would probably say "OK. cool." But probably in Latin.

Francis laid out the hypothetical situation as part of a discussion of the early Church's baptizing of Gentiles. Basically, the earliest Church contained some tension over whether there was any difference between the very early Jewish followers of Christ, and Gentiles who converted from paganism to Christianity, who would be considered "unclean" by the standards of Jewish law. Peter eventually persuades his followers that everyone is open to becoming Christian by saying, "If then God gave them the same gift He gave to us when we came to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I to be able to hinder God?"

So here's how Francis tried to illustrate that point on Monday, with a much more modern example:

That was unthinkable. If – for example - tomorrow an expedition of Martians came, and some of them came to us, here... Martians, right? Green, with that long nose and big ears, just like children paint them... And one says, 'But I want to be baptized!' What would happen?"

What would happen? They'd get baptized, that's what would happen. He goes on:

"When the Lord shows us the way, who are we to say, 'No, Lord, it is not prudent! No, lets do it this way'... Who are we to close doors? In the early Church, even today, there is the ministry of the ostiary [usher]. And what did the ostiary do? He opened the door, received the people, allowed them to pass. But it was never the ministry of the closed door, never."

The Vatican's astronomer — the same one who dismissed 'Intelligent Design' as 'bad theology' — said in 2010 that he'd baptize an alien because "any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has – has a soul." But, again, only if they request it. So glad that's settled. Now all we have to do is wait.


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KEYWORDS: baptisingaliens; baptism; catholicism; mars; martians; missions; pope; popefrancis
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To: marthemaria

Good for Pope Francis! ( now if he could only figure out how to wean all of Satan’s followers from “ that religion of peace” (sic!!) to a genuine relationship, communion with the one true God).


81 posted on 05/13/2014 10:57:12 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: marthemaria; Alex Murphy

Will Alex Murphy please pick up the white courtesy phone... Did we just see what we just saw?


82 posted on 05/13/2014 10:57:13 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: sickoflibs

What about goats? Baptize them too?


Or gorillas, or dolphins, or dogs? Or supercomputers?

The real question is how to determine whether a sentient being has a soul.


83 posted on 05/13/2014 10:58:58 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001
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To: Psalm 73

Well, he is, after all, infallible...


Actually popes are not infallible in all they say and do. Only when speaking “ex catherda” are they infallible.

Pius XII was the last Pope to speak ex cathedra in 1950 when he defined assumption of Mary.


84 posted on 05/13/2014 10:58:58 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001
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To: SgtHooper

It’s the coffee. Read through the typos.


85 posted on 05/13/2014 11:00:11 AM PDT by SgtHooper (This is my tag!)
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To: Freeping Since 2001
RE :”The real question is how to determine whether a sentient being has a soul.”

is there a gene that will tell us that, like the gay gene?

86 posted on 05/13/2014 11:00:59 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'I never said that you can keep your doctor . Republicans lie about me ')
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To: ifinnegan

You do not know what you’re trying to claim. Coco was not only aware enough to carry on conversation, she displayed sadness when he kitty ‘AllBall’ died. Do you realize that soul and spirit are not the same?


87 posted on 05/13/2014 11:04:33 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Dutchboy88; Gamecock
Will Alex Murphy please pick up the white courtesy phone... Did we just see what we just saw?

Yes, but Gamecock reported it first.

88 posted on 05/13/2014 11:06:59 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: cuban leaf

So, then, are you claiming others we don’t know about who were also created in God’s image (if they exist) would need only God and Holy Spirit, but not Christ?


89 posted on 05/13/2014 11:07:05 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: MHGinTN

If Coco needs to be saved, and confesses Christ, the by all means she should be baptized.

Would you deny her that?


90 posted on 05/13/2014 11:09:38 AM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

Until you can illustrate what you can use to determine if she has a spirit, not just a soul, I will continue to laugh at your illiteracy. Have you any reference to cite where God breathed a spirit into some ancient ancestor of Coco?


91 posted on 05/13/2014 11:14:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: ifinnegan

Yep. Christ is fully God and fully man and His geneology, life and purpose of His death and resurrection are very clearly spelled out in His word. If you are not a descendent of Adam, the “gospel” does not apply to you. And baptism is ALL about the gospel - the good news of Christ’s sacrifice and its purpose.


92 posted on 05/13/2014 11:14:40 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: sickoflibs

A sentient, intelligent alien could make the decision to join the church.

A goat can not.

True, we baptize infants who don’t make the decision themselves, but it is up to them if they want to cultivate their role in the Church during their lives.


93 posted on 05/13/2014 11:18:16 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: ifinnegan

There have been a lot of people on this earth that were/are satisfied with just God.


94 posted on 05/13/2014 11:26:46 AM PDT by redhawk.44mag
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To: Alex Murphy

Was there a prize for “first detection & report”?


95 posted on 05/13/2014 11:27:52 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

part of the delusion


96 posted on 05/13/2014 11:37:53 AM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: cuban leaf

It is indeed absurd. Why would they even need baptism or salvation if they are not descended from Adam & Eve? If you’re not part of the curse, then you don’t need the cure.


97 posted on 05/13/2014 11:41:33 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Freeping Since 2001

“Pius XII was the last Pope to speak ex cathedra in 1950 when he defined assumption of Mary.”

WHOA! No wonder they are loathe to do it again, after that boo boo!


98 posted on 05/13/2014 11:42:53 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: marthemaria
We're assuming that he alien is an air breathing land creature. What if it is aquatic? Do we baptize it by pulling it up into the atmosphere momentarily?
99 posted on 05/13/2014 11:42:53 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: Boogieman

It is indeed absurd. Why would they even need baptism or salvation if they are not descended from Adam & Eve? If you’re not part of the curse, then you don’t need the cure.


Exactly. You said it more clearly and succinctly than I did. :-)


100 posted on 05/13/2014 11:44:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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