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Neo-Nazis may turn Ukraine into new Lebanon, Israeli rabbi says
Vestnik Kavkaza ^ | 5/8/2014 | Staff

Posted on 05/08/2014 2:46:20 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

Israeli rabbi Michael Finkel says the Jewish community is on high alert because of the influence of the neo-Nazi's within Kiev's temporary government. "This is Right Sector. This is the peole who are marching in Nazi uniforms with SF on their arms and on their military uniforms," Finkel says.

According to the rabbi, it is possible that Ukraine could turn into a country similar to Lebanon. "In Lebanon, there's an official government and there is Hezbollah, which is a terrrorist organization linked to the government. They're members of the parliament, and there's a Hezbollah militia over thre, a separate army, and they're alo linked to the government. What happens in Ukraine now is that there will be a government, which is officially not Nazi, but there will be Nazi parliament members. There is a Nazi army, which is parallel to the regular Ukrainian army, and there will be Nazi members, maybe, in the government," Finkel says.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: agateprop; aggieprop; agitprop; antifascist; antisemitism; bandera; banderas; fascism; fascist; kiev; lebanon; michaelfinkel; neonazis; ntsa; pravysektor; rabbi; rabbis; rightsector; russianoccupation; stephanbandera; svoboda; tyranny; ukraine
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To: Zhang Fei
So, if you really believe that, one must be a Russian imperialist to be a mass-murdering Jew?

They can come from no where else?

And no one else (that is, no one else who isn't Jewish) can't be a mass-murderer?

Rwanda?

The Killing Fields was accomplished by...Russian Jews/Jewish Russians?

Ah ha! That's why Iran wants to get the bomb. They are Russian Jews, and/or Jewish Russians and/or Russian Jewish imperialists and/or Jewish Russian imperialists who want to commit mass murder. /s

21 posted on 05/08/2014 3:17:36 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: grania
Can't we all at least agree that everybody, all sides, should work to remove anyone with Nazi sentiments from the government and from the fight? Then, with all of the photographic evidence that exists, identify and apprehend all of those who slaughtered people when there was no reason for them to be killed.

There would be no fight without a Russian attempt to annex Ukraine.

22 posted on 05/08/2014 3:18:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: grania

No.

Many at FR cannot chew bubble gum and walk at the same time.

Hence, they obviously believe that what you propose cannot be accomplished, when it obviously can - and should.


23 posted on 05/08/2014 3:19:48 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
So, if you really believe that, one must be a Russian imperialist to be a mass-murdering Jew? They can come from no where else?

That's not what I said. I said the only mass-murdering Jews in recent history have been Russian imperialists. (And by recent history, I've excluded the Israelites' root and branch extermination of the Amalekites).

24 posted on 05/08/2014 3:24:58 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

No I am not.

You and others here, please stop with the “You’re suggesting that Russia be allowed to annex Ukraine because elements of Ukraine are supposedly Nazis.”

Why is it that when anyone says that Kiev MUST step up to the plate and toss out all Svoboda from gov’t and deal with ALL Right Sector, etc, that you and others just have to go to the old boilerplate line of “You’re suggesting that Russia be allowed to annex Ukraine because elements of Ukraine are supposedly Nazis”?

Supposedly Nazis?

Supposedly?

As long as you say supposedly, then your eyes are clouded and covered and you cannot see claerly to defend and stand with Jewish people everywhere.


25 posted on 05/08/2014 3:25:42 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Zhang Fei

Zhang- tell them it is bull and that there are more
Nazis in Russia than in all of Ukraone and EU together..

http://uacrisis.org/wp-content/uploads/uacisis-org_antisemithism_en-1170x877.jpg

Number of registered anti-jewish incidents in Europe. 2013.

Ger-1300..UK-800..FR-613...Ukraine-50..Ed


26 posted on 05/08/2014 3:29:49 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Why is it that when anyone says that Kiev MUST step up to the plate and toss out all Svoboda from gov’t and deal with ALL Right Sector, etc, that you and others just have to go to the old boilerplate line of “You’re suggesting that Russia be allowed to annex Ukraine because elements of Ukraine are supposedly Nazis”?

Because at the heart of it all is Russia's impending annexation of Ukraine.

27 posted on 05/08/2014 3:34:35 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

There are no good guys except the innocent Ukrainians who want their freedom and country back. They ousted their crooked dictator and the result is a Russian invasion?


28 posted on 05/08/2014 3:35:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: GeronL
There are no good guys except the innocent Ukrainians who want their freedom and country back. They ousted their crooked dictator and the result is a Russian invasion?

When Germany annexed Czechoslovakia in 1938, neither side was particularly wonderful, but we would have been better off if that annexation had never happened. The parallel with Munich is that Ukraine's arms factories are located in its eastern region, in the same way that the territory ceded to Germany included Czechoslovakia's weapons plants.

29 posted on 05/08/2014 4:21:21 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: varmintman

Putin: “Ukraine, stop hitting yourself”.


30 posted on 05/08/2014 4:25:04 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Many replies on this thread display a lack of critical thinking on a breath taking level. The Ukraine is a sovereign country and Putin is a thug determined to end that country’s autonomy and the pro Russian victors will cleanse the non-Russians that remain. The Jews? Well they aren’t really Russians are they?


31 posted on 05/08/2014 4:34:31 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Unfortunately way TOO MANY Americans are FOOLED by our media, which is doing Obama’s dirty work.

Talk to some RUSSIAN JEWS, as I have. They will tell you that they have it better than Jews ever did in that country - far from perfect, but much, much, better than Communism or the Tsars. The sad thing is that Americans won’t believe them...but rather defer to what people like Dan Rather say.


32 posted on 05/08/2014 4:49:30 PM PDT by BobL
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To: hubel458
Interesting link, thanks. Let's give that map some daylight on this thread.


34 posted on 05/08/2014 5:20:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Not sure like Lebanon....more like Russia...as I do believe when all is said and done Ukraine will turn to Russia once again.

Most of the protesters in the east and sea border are anti-Kiev..not Pro-russia......they do not want to join Russia...they want local home rule...autonomy. Russia has no problem with letting them be so. The EU/NAto/Us does not.

You should hear the total breakdown of the EU via the Atlantic Council concerning Nato and the EU now....calling for a change in it's leadership, but nobody willing to Also interesting is the Council sees and acknowleges there's been a witch hunt against Russia from the get go...you should hear their plans to once again incorporate Russia into their fold....and be assured Russia will be without a doubt.

35 posted on 05/08/2014 6:45:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: Mike Darancette
That's not true...Putin has no desire to see the upheaval in Ukraine, ...nor did he from the beginning...Putin is simply responding to the EU/NAto/Eu encroachment on his area of influence with the countries on his border.....( Ref, US Cuban missile crisis 1962!)

USA/NATO’s aim of sowing conflict ‘between EU and Russia’ is irresponsible!..... And you better believe Europe is pretty much silent concerning Russia because they are more interested in a future relationship with Russia/China and the rest of Asia then they are the USA.

Why should it be considered strange that Putin reacts to “NATO’s enlargement”... which is encircling the Black Sea. ....And Why did no European leader met face to face with Putin as Sarkozy did on Georgia-Russia war in 2008, until recently when they sent Merkel of Germany in?...... And further why were US Senators meddling in the affairs of the EU/Russia relationship to begin with, parading around Ukraine during the protests...just what kind of message were they sending to Russia? They had no business doing so regarding Ukraine....this was an EU/Russia affair over Ukraine..and a terrible mistake when the US told them they had to choose between Russia's proposal and the EU's proposal from the very beginning...rather than allowing things to work out among the interested parties.

Additionally Ukraine has never been an autonomous country, as you alluded to..., it’s ‘profoundly’ divided by history, ethnicity, marriage, economics.... Half think it'd be better off with, or at least not without, Russia,.... the others prefer Europe.

All you have to do is look at our own borders and the “differences” between our relationship and peoples of Canada and those of Mexico to understand what's happening in Ukraine. There is likewise these differences “within” Ukraine and East from West.

36 posted on 05/08/2014 7:11:02 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

quote’’EU/Russia affair over Ukraine..and a terrible mistake when the US told them they had to choose between Russia’s proposal and the EU’s proposal from the very beginning...rather than allowing things to work out among the interested parties.’’

Choosing russias side meant keeping the russia supported crook in power who took over 80 billion, half of which went to russia...and when pushed and voted out he ran back to mama putee to suck tit. like a spoiled brat..

Why would you support such a bunch of dinks...


37 posted on 05/08/2014 9:26:04 PM PDT by hubel458
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To: hubel458
I happen to support the Ukrainian people who seek to rid their country of these...again...and who are now in their Government....that's why.

Fascists have not changed.

Lviv,Ukraine 1941...... Kiev,Ukraine 2014.


38 posted on 05/08/2014 9:54:53 PM PDT by caww
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To: hubel458

....”crook in power who took over 80 billion”.....

And that’s something we’re suppose to believe is something new in Ukraine politics??? They’ve never had a government that wasn’t corrupt to the bones.....and the one there now shipped Ukraines gold to the US his first week in office.....and you buy that this was to safe keep Ukraines gold? That’s a not...just ask Germany. Besides that gold was down payment for what we see the US doing in “helping” Kiev government now shoot and kill their own people.....same with Egypt and with Libya and all the others.


39 posted on 05/08/2014 9:59:54 PM PDT by caww
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To: Zhang Fei
Lenin himself was also part-Jewish, but in truth, this thug was 100% mass-murdering Russian imperialist, who displayed none of the traditional humanism of practicing Jews.
Lenin was in no way Jewish, or rather as German as he is a non-Jew. His maternal grandfather, grand uncle and great-grandfather all coverted to Russian Orthodox. Aleksandr Blank married a Russian of German descent and their daughter married into a Russian-Kalmyk family of petty nobles.
40 posted on 05/08/2014 10:17:02 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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