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Russia complains of large Ukrainian troop buildup in east
CNN ^ | Sat April 26, 2014 | Ralph Ellis, Laura Smith-Spark and Gul Tuysuz

Posted on 04/26/2014 7:58:44 PM PDT by BurningOak

Kiev, Ukraine (CNN) -- A perilous face-off intensified Saturday when Russia state news complained that Ukraine had mobilized 15,000 troops in the suburbs of Slavyansk in eastern Ukraine "in order to wipe out the city and its residents."

Quoting a Russian Defense Ministry source, RIA Novosti said satellite photos showed the force forming around the city that has become a friction point between the Ukraine military and pro-Russian militants.

The Defense Ministry source said the number of Ukraine troops put the pro-Russian militants at a disadvantage because the latter are "armed only with small amount of pistols and shotguns." Many eastern Ukraine residents have Russian roots and sympathize with Moscow.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine; war
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To: MinorityRepublican
So you think you can destroy guerrilla where Napoleon and Hitler failed. Good luck!
61 posted on 04/27/2014 3:55:59 AM PDT by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: BurningOak; All

Russians “complaining”???

Say it isn’t so Pooty-Poot!!!

I thought you said you were going to smoke these Ukranians??? Like a pack of Cools???

Did you run out of cigarettes???


62 posted on 04/27/2014 5:46:25 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: BurningOak

What were the State Dept. and CIA thinking when they decided to push for a coup against a democratically elected leader that was friendly with Russia? Did they think Russia would accept that?

The Federal Government’s actions in Ukraine are outrageous. America has no interests in Ukraine and no reason to interfere in their political process.

All over the EU.


63 posted on 04/27/2014 10:11:16 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Putin is not trying to destroy Western civilization.


64 posted on 04/27/2014 10:26:10 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Monmouth78
Putin is not trying to destroy Western civilization.

As a matter of fact, he is. What he wants is East-West convergence under Soviet terms, the same "terms" that KGB defectors have been warning us about for decades, who also predicted that a failure to deconstruct the soviet structures in Russia would lead to a future just like today.

65 posted on 04/27/2014 12:22:51 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: BurningOak

“The Defense Ministry source said the number of Ukraine troops put the pro-Russian militants at a disadvantage because the latter are “armed only with small amount of pistols and shotguns.” Many eastern Ukraine residents have Russian roots and sympathize with Moscow.”

You got to be kidding me. And how much forces did Russian bring against Ukraine?


66 posted on 04/27/2014 1:53:54 PM PDT by LevinFan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Putin wants to have influence in neighboring countries that used to be part of Russia’s empire. What on earth is “East-West convergence under Soviet terms”?


67 posted on 04/27/2014 4:24:58 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

yes...pure evil.


68 posted on 04/27/2014 4:27:03 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Monmouth78
What on earth is “East-West convergence under Soviet terms”?

It's a quote from Anatoliy Golitsyn's "New Lies for Old." It basically means a world wide government under communist terms, or, in other words, under Kremlin parameters.

69 posted on 04/27/2014 4:35:10 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Do you think that Putin is ginning up a world wide communist government?


70 posted on 04/27/2014 5:20:03 PM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Monmouth78
Do you think that Putin is ginning up a world wide communist government?

I think this focuses too hard on Putin himself, as he is merely the visible head of a larger monster. If you got rid of him, it would change nothing, as the deeper problem is the hidden soviet structures that have yet to be dismantled and are growing.

A Russian think-thank recently noted that Russia has been preparing for a world war for many years now, and they fingered Ukraine as integral for Russia's modernization and war preparations. Russia has intellectuals who openly promote invading France and renaming it Gaul, and also discuss different ways in which they may cause the United States to collapse, so that they may establish a new empire. China, also, is preparing its military for confrontation, and the designated targets are always American ones, our ships, our forces, our country.

Meanwhile, Russia is still funding and aiding communist movements across the world, and many of our current leaders have known connections to Communist front-groups established by the KGB during the cold war.

The writing is on the wall for those who look.

71 posted on 04/27/2014 5:44:59 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: tcrlaf

I tend to agree. When someone as high level as McCains is tainted, then it’s pretty much a given that lower level politicos are too.


72 posted on 04/27/2014 6:46:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Russia is like an abuser that beats you more when you resist, and blames your resistance for the beating.”

Accurately depicted.


73 posted on 04/28/2014 3:32:50 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: BurningOak

How DARE the Ukrainian Army move forces around inside Ukraine without permission from Moscow! These upstarts must think they’re an independent country!


74 posted on 04/28/2014 11:28:44 AM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Russia is like an abuser that beats you more when you resist, and blames your resistance for the beating.

Sounds like so many videos I see of American law enforcement these days. They beat the hell out of someone for no reason and then beat them some more if the person doesn't submit to the beating. And then the person gets accused of 'resisting arrest' which anymore just means 'Contempt of Cop'.

75 posted on 04/28/2014 11:33:34 AM PDT by MeganC (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: BurningOak
....."Good propaganda doesn’t just lie and tell half truths, it tells people what they think should be the truth".....

Yep...just like here in the USA


76 posted on 04/28/2014 12:12:35 PM PDT by caww
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To: BurningOak
....."Good propaganda doesn’t just lie and tell half truths, it tells people what they think should be the truth".....

Yep...just like here in the USA


77 posted on 04/28/2014 12:12:35 PM PDT by caww
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To: DesertRhino
Then there's the constant 'denial' in media and news sources of the Nazi influence in Ukraine that borders on insanity....heck they've had two marches since Easter, fully in the open and this with no outcry from our Gov....

Nazi March in Lvuv this week 'in honor' of Ukrainian Waffen SS division....The march was staged by ‘Native Land’ and ‘Student Brotherhood of Stephan Bandera’...slogans like – “SS Galician Division!” ...“People of Lvov are the strongest!”... “Glory to the nation – death to enemies!”... and “Bandera and Shukhevich are heroes of Ukraine!” went un-noted in our news


78 posted on 04/28/2014 1:08:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; Monmouth78

Let me just use your own words by simply replacing the players here and you can see why what Russia does and the EU/US are very similar in nature in their quest for domination:

” ...Obama is merely the visible head of a larger monster. If you get rid of him, it would change nothing, as the deeper problem is hidden in the government system structures that have yet to be dismantled and are growing.”

To continue.....”The US/EU have been preparing for and actively involved in uniting nations under one roof of authority, they fingered Ukraine as integral for further isolating Russia and control of it’s border areas”....

..... “The US and EU along with the Atlantic Counsel have intellectuals who openly promote further fast paced advances on Georgia, Western Balkins and other nation states in which they can further consolidate the nations under the EU Domination, further isolating Russia’s areas of influence....so that they may establish an Empire under Brussles and a New World Order.

Meanwhile the US and EU are still funding and aiding various sordid terrorists groups known to have connections to Islamists and Nazi organizations, with connections to the Muslim Brotherhood front groups established by it’s leadership.

The writing is on the wall for those who look.”


79 posted on 04/28/2014 1:28:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

The difference, of course, is that your world view is laregly built up from lies spread from the Kremlin, an entity you insist on defending. Whereas I do not defend Obama, though I do not buy into every stupid antiAmerican conspiracy theory, as the Kremlin nutjobs of FR do.


80 posted on 04/28/2014 1:34:16 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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