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Bundy Responds To NYT, Defends "Slavery" Comments
The Right Scoop ^ | 4/24/2014 | Caleb Howe

Posted on 04/24/2014 10:44:44 AM PDT by absentee

[embeddable youtube of audio is at the link]

"That's exactly what I said. I said I'm wondering if they're better off under government subsidy, and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail, and their older women and their children are standing, sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do, you know, I'm wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I'm wondering, are they better off being slaves, in that sense, or better off being slaves to the United States government, in the sense of the subsidies. I'm wondering. That's what. And the statement was right. I am wondering."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bundyracist; bundyranch; bundyresponse; cementpond; cliven; kentucky; nevada; ranch; slavery
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To: Mechanicos
Prove it!

"Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were slaves, and they was able to have their family structure together, and the chickens and garden, and the people had something to do? And so, in my mind I’m wondering, are they better off being slaves"

Better off as slaves. His words

181 posted on 04/24/2014 2:12:26 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: okie01
And you choose to ignore it...

I do not. I agree that blacks are on a government slave plantation.

My disagreement is when he said slaves had a good family life, despite the reality that family members could be sold.

182 posted on 04/24/2014 2:15:54 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive
Blacks today can leave the government plantation. Slaves could not.

It's sort of like comparing a high-tech lynching to an actual lynching. You can survive a high-tech lynching, but in a real one, you are hung from a tree.

183 posted on 04/24/2014 2:26:51 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: absentee
He's standing by what he said.

He wonders if, that's the key phrase. Is there something wrong with that? Did he advocate a return to the days of slavery? No. Did he say that's all "they" are capable of? No. Did he say "send them all back" to a continent they have never even visited? No.

184 posted on 04/24/2014 2:28:53 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: FatherofFive

Wondering is not saying they are, you failed. Next time read before signing up to support the left.


185 posted on 04/24/2014 2:30:01 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: FatherofFive

BTW, leaving off the question mark in your quote was dishonest.


186 posted on 04/24/2014 2:31:46 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Cats Pajamas

Rawr!


187 posted on 04/24/2014 2:31:56 PM PDT by Jarhead9297
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To: FatherofFive
...too many FRiends here are supporting slavery.

Who? Acknowledging that the government dole is akin to slavery is not supporting it.

188 posted on 04/24/2014 2:32:40 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Jarhead9297

Okay settle down over there you sillypants.


189 posted on 04/24/2014 2:35:08 PM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Send your dollar to see the birth certificate)
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To: FatherofFive

He’s asking, not saying. Where does he say they ARE better off as slaves? Show that.


190 posted on 04/24/2014 2:38:30 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Ezekiel

Amen.


191 posted on 04/24/2014 4:12:19 PM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: Aria

“No one is better off as a slave.”

I’m thinking of girls forced into prostitution in Southeast Asia. Some are the sole support of their families.

Would they have been better off to starve than to endure the depravity of that life? Would you starve, and let your families starve?

It’s in God’s hands. Speaking of which, I wonder whether a gang-banger has as much hope of Heaven as a 19th century Christian slave.

After which I hasten to add that slavery is an atrocity, never accceptable under any circumstances. I am not advocating the return of slavery. I just wonder.


192 posted on 04/24/2014 4:14:33 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
If I chose to live on a plantation, trading my time working in the field for a home and food, that is my choice. Slaves had no choice. They could not leave. Their children could not leave. That is the antithesis of the American dream.

That's exactly right. And, worse, their children (or parents, or spouses, or siblings, etc.) could be--and often were--sold and the family forcibly separated. To praise the "family structure" that existed under slavery is ignorant at best.

The above arguments are based on an ideal and its extreme opposite, namely choice vs. no choice, freedom vs. slavery.

For many today that have family responsibility, a job and a retirement plan, there is no choice. Oh sure, among these people there will a few that say that can 'choose' to walk away from it. But slaves could 'choose' to run away, and many did.

The result of running away is the same, falling into a life of begging or of stealing, of becoming a ward of the state or a criminal. It matters not if one is property or non-property, slave or non-slave. The choice leads to the same result.

Of course, the 'ideal of freedom' is what we all want but few of us truly have it. What keeps us from capitulating into a miserable life of dependency, of modern day slavery, is a strong work ethic with a sense of personal responsibility that is transmitted from generation to generation.

An EBT card is the one item that separates many from starvation and crime, or is it? Those that have them are slaves, modern day slaves owned by the state. These slaves can runaway from their EBT masters but then find themselves begging or living a life of crime. It's really not a lot different than slaves on plantations of centuries before.

But many will disagree that modern slavery is not much different from slavery before its abolition. They will say that slaves never had a choice but as I said oreviously they did have a choice, they could runaway just as modern slaves can also choose to runaway. And those that do runaway will find themselves brought under control of a new slave master. So there's no escape for most.

193 posted on 04/24/2014 6:08:41 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Mechanicos

Bundy has the support of the folks like here at FR and other conservatives. Myself included. Opening mouth and inserting foot during a PR campaign was not a smart move. The media managed to make a nobody like Obama with no accomplishments president of the united states. They can turn Bundy in to the next Bull Conner in the eyes of the dopes. And now, any conservative that would have come to his defense is going to be running for the hills.


194 posted on 04/24/2014 6:28:02 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Organic Panic

Again, the ones who were not supporting him before, are the same ones not supporting him now. The race card is dead. He has not lost any support.


195 posted on 04/24/2014 6:52:14 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Fuzz
You missed the original point........

No worries....

196 posted on 04/24/2014 8:18:19 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: absentee

Placemark


197 posted on 04/24/2014 10:59:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Mechanicos

Again, the ones who were not supporting him before, are the same ones not supporting him now. The race card is dead. He has not lost any support.


Chris Matthews saying the words golf and Chicago are racist is using the race card. Condemning Bundy for what he said is NOT using the race card.


198 posted on 04/24/2014 11:00:15 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: absentee

Rand Paul and Hannity have condemned what Bundy said. I guess that now makes them traitors.


199 posted on 04/24/2014 11:06:49 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: dsc

In my humble opinion, anyone who defends slavery is an enemy of freedom.


200 posted on 04/25/2014 12:07:25 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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