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The American Middle Class Is No Longer the World’s Richest
New York Times ^ | April 22, 2014 | David Leonhardt and Kevin Quealy

Posted on 04/22/2014 10:49:40 AM PDT by C19fan

The American middle class, long the most affluent in the world, has lost that distinction.

While the wealthiest Americans are outpacing many of their global peers, a New York Times analysis shows that across the lower- and middle-income tiers, citizens of other advanced countries have received considerably larger raises over the last three decades.

After-tax middle-class incomes in Canada — substantially behind in 2000 — now appear to be higher than in the United States. The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: incomeequality; inequality; liberalagenda; middle; middleclass
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To: RegulatorCountry

Good post, I think you’re spot on.
The bullish effects of all the “fake” govt created money are concentrated in a lot of coastal areas.


21 posted on 04/22/2014 12:28:28 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: mikeus_maximus
So, where should I move?

To the upper class.

22 posted on 04/22/2014 12:29:15 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (Beat Lamar! And, if that doesn't work, let's defeat him in the primary.)
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To: mikeus_maximus
So, where should I move?

Into a secure government job with those top shelf benefits and lottery style retirement pensions.

23 posted on 04/22/2014 12:33:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nascarnation

There’s an element of fashionability even on the coasts. For instance in NC, some beaches and islands on the Outer Banks are thriving with rebounded second home resale prices, and some are not. Depends upon who likes to go there. The northeasterners in general and DC crowd in particular love the northern OBX. Doing well. Same with Ocracoke, limited supply helped keep it from bottoming too badly as well. But elsewhere there are still foreclosures and screaming bargains to be had. Those are the historically middle class beaches.


24 posted on 04/22/2014 12:40:56 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: nascarnation

The person who observed the “Eating” out in the NE not being impacted, isn’t getting the picture right.

I live in the wealthiest part of NJ. Yes, those chains are PACKED, but not by people who work for a living to pay our insane mortgages and property taxes. No, those places are packed with immigrants and welfare kings/queens, who worry about nothing and spend their free money on those places and Xboxes and nice car leases.

Trust me. You don’t want to eat in their company anyway. For us hardworking upper-middle classers, the choice is eat in, or eat out at the high-end. In my case, I’m lucky if we can do the high-end once every two months. Mostly we have to buy all our food in at costco and make good use of the freezers. Again, its the ridiculously inflated home prices and the insane property taxes that do it.

And no, I’m not looking for sympathy of any kind. I am hardly in the worst spot, although the same socialist policies are making it almost impossible for us to break through to the next tier, we’re frozen for now, on a downward trajectory in the medium term.


25 posted on 04/22/2014 12:51:58 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore...)
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To: SamAdams76

I live in N. Idaho. Closest “big” city is Spokane, WA. The timber and mining industries that used to be the main employers in this area are shadows now. Medicaid and SSI are the only growth “industries”. We are fortunate to have been spared the invasion of illegals like southern Idaho.

Most of the higher end real estate is being purchased by retiring out-of-staters and Canadians.


26 posted on 04/22/2014 1:01:20 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: C19fan

An example of what’s being called the middle class:

A small town city manager has been getting over $200,000 per year and says that he can’t afford medical insurance for any less. That’s not a middle class. It’s something else.


27 posted on 04/22/2014 1:10:31 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SamAdams76

The explanation is math. There’s 311 million people in this country, not everybody is effected by the downturn. I’ve gotten 3 significant raises during this whole thing, I’m doing better than ever. Most of the folks at my job are in a similar boat (except for the occasional random layoff our corporate masters throw at us to remind who’s really in charge), our subsection of the company is in smooth shape because the subsection of the market we’re in is recession proof (4% annual growth over inflation since the 80s, good economy or bad our market always grows).

Other subsections of the world things aren’t so smooth. But you always have to remember recessions are really built on a small number of people. Even with the really ugly charts projecting projecting 25% un/underemployment that still leaves 225 million people NOT in a household in that boat. For a lot of folks recessions happen to other people, I’ve always ridden them out smoothly, most of the people I know are riding this one out well, but it wasn’t always that way, we’ve learned lessons and caught some lucky bounces.


28 posted on 04/22/2014 1:11:05 PM PDT by discostu (Seriously, do we no longer do "phrasing"?!)
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To: C19fan
The situation in the States is far worse than that. Most of the publications on the matter are smokescreen propaganda for foreign and downscale investors. The USD will fall much further, and Canada, a net energy commodities exporter, shouldn't try to follow it to the bottom. Oil and other energy commodities will continue to go sky high, by the way. U.S. producers are exporting refined products much more now, and there will be hundreds of millions of new drivers and other uses of energy products in developing countries during the years to come.

Leviathan (Uncle Sam employs more people than you think)
National Review ^ | 02/03/2011 | Iain Murray
"...nearly 40 million Americans employed in some way by government."

About "70 million" people are receiving good incomes but are also steeped in debt and can't borrow more for big ticket items. Meanwhile,...

More Than 101 Million Working Age Americans Do Not Have A Job
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3005481/posts

Heavy Hitters: Top All-Time Donors, 1989-2014
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

National Cmte to Preserve Social Security & Medicare $10,414,606 [Democrat] 82% [Republican] 17%


29 posted on 04/22/2014 1:27:26 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

They want us to live like Europe? Like these leftist idiots have ever experienced a worker’s life in Europe.
Entrepreneurship is virtually nonexistent due to their banking system. I don’t think I could live a life of quiet desperation like my cousins.


30 posted on 04/22/2014 1:34:49 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: mikeus_maximus; C19fan

Texas
http://www.indeed.com/q-$40,000-l-76208-jobs.html


31 posted on 04/22/2014 1:37:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: SamAdams76

I travel around a bit. Even in your area. Outside of the financial services areas, the East just seems rundown. Now it isn’t worse than before, but I do see more empty storefronts than before. If you go outside the mega cities, I see a lot more desperation. In my area the two major employers are cutting back, and there are no jobs to replace them. People often can’t move. Heck there was an article about the rise of 50 something’s moving back in with their parents.

So things are spotty, but what I see is a growing sense of desperation. People no longer expect to make it


32 posted on 04/22/2014 2:07:48 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: griswold3
I'm worried they don't want us to live at all. We embarrass them.

They want subservient underlings, and just enough of them to keep the greens mowed and the limo polished up.

That's the source of all those "don't take the immunization injections!" rumors.

33 posted on 04/22/2014 6:29:42 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: familyop
The situation in the States is far worse than that.

Hey, snap to! (All together now ....) It's Bush's fault!!

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34 posted on 04/22/2014 6:38:05 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
"Hey, snap to! (All together now ....) It's Bush's fault!!

/s
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Interesting that you brought that appropriate irony and sarcasm up again. Imagine being President Bush and being surrounded, even immediately surrounded, by socially pathological socialists and seeing no way out of moral and societal decline for our nation, with the most insane folks being the most influential in politics, business and academia.

I was educated by men of the past in Texas, who were also very common in speech and mannerisms while being rather more wise and thoughtful than outsiders would suspect. It was their way of being tactful with common folks, even while communicating with each other (incl. men with oil related companies). On solving that problem of decline, maybe in the near future, the default will have been just what we needed.


35 posted on 04/22/2014 8:07:40 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: C19fan
The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.

Do the so-called poor here "earn" ANYTHING? Or are they simply on the dole? How about Europe?

36 posted on 04/23/2014 6:36:23 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: C19fan

American imports from China: 440 billion cost last year.

Chinese imports from America: 122 billion cost last year.

America needs jobs. Jobs. Jobs.

Bring back jobs from China.


37 posted on 04/23/2014 6:40:54 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

what about 3d printing, those jobs will disappear.

Years ago there were companies that did envelope stuffing for mass mailings. Now we have machines that wiped that industry out.

Those machines are going away because of email.

Event lawyers who used to do high volumes of mailing have their court docs all done by email.

The only industry now in the US is the creation of feminized pot heads.


38 posted on 04/23/2014 12:34:42 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SamAdams76

The metropolis in DC to Boston isnt doing that bad due to an increase in federal spending.


39 posted on 04/23/2014 12:48:32 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: longtermmemmory
I think we're coming to a point where the federal government will have to create "work" for the masses. Maybe hire the unemployed to do Roadworks.

automation is making many industries efficient. Look at Amazon. That's why retail is being decimated and most malls are dead or dying out in this country

40 posted on 04/23/2014 12:52:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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