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Boy Scouts ban church that let gay man lead troop
Associated Press ^ | Apr 21, 2014 3:00 PM EDT | Phuong Le

Posted on 04/21/2014 12:26:22 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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1 posted on 04/21/2014 12:26:22 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I thought BSA was all for this? The church should have been the one to evict the troop leader, BTW...


2 posted on 04/21/2014 12:28:31 PM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Olog-hai

Good for the boy scouts, not surprising for the church.


3 posted on 04/21/2014 12:30:15 PM PDT by Wicket (1 Peter 3:15 , Romans 5:5-8)
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To: Olog-hai

So-called church


4 posted on 04/21/2014 12:30:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Olog-hai

So now that the BSA organization is allowing gay scouts this was an obvious next step. So if they let the gays in their organization and they advance through their ranks and become an Eagle scout, how or they going to prevent them from advancing to a leadership position.


5 posted on 04/21/2014 12:37:15 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (The more you know, the more you realize that you don't know.)
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To: rjsimmon

The UMC is one of the most liberal, if not THE most liberal, churches in the country. They have no problem with homosexuals in positions of leadership in the church.


6 posted on 04/21/2014 12:37:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Olog-hai
When I had Cub Master orientation it was stressed that pedophiles were constantly trying to get in leadership positions.

One way around this is to limit adult participation to those who have, had, or will have young relatives who join. Gets away from the gay thing while qualifying legitimate volunteers.

7 posted on 04/21/2014 12:40:22 PM PDT by AU72
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To: Olog-hai

A great comment a Freeper once posted was “Why don’t they just create their own organization called the “Boy and Gay Man Camping Club” and let them seek their own members?”


8 posted on 04/21/2014 12:42:42 PM PDT by MNDude
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Louis Green, Author wrote a local book, and in it he described his Church as having a guy give communion to parish people, and he was gay. Green wore gloves to take the goblet from him during communion...the author is dead now, but he had an ongoing criticism about his church being so liberal.


9 posted on 04/21/2014 12:43:44 PM PDT by Kackikat
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I recall the announcement when the BSA lifted the ban on gay scouts that the organization was not changing its stance on leaders because the purpose of the organization was to provide opportunities for boys, not for adult leaders.

What they have yet to answer is how any scout who insists on being "openly gay" can possibly keep the "morally straight" part of the scout oath.

I'm not unsympathetic with young men who struggle with feelings of sexual identity, but I have none for the militant "openly gay" variety who expect organizations to kow-tow to their demands and declare immorality to be moral.

That's what has hollowed out many mainline Protestant sects and it will hollow-out any other organization which refuses to confront it.

10 posted on 04/21/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Yes. The elephant in the room about BSA is that it’s all really about liability. Even if the BSA were to allow gay leaders in under an explicit zero-tolerance, no strikes policy, they’d still be liable for any assaults/rapes that did occur.

It would very quickly consume and destroy the organization ...


11 posted on 04/21/2014 12:46:08 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: MNDude

There would be too many chiefs and not enough indians. The perverts understand this better than anybody else.


12 posted on 04/21/2014 12:46:08 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

I wonder if this is a test case being set up so that the BSA can blame the courts for having to allow gay leadership.

It seems to me that restricting membership based on shared values and belief in God is a lot easier than restricting just leadership positions.

But then again, when it comes to labor law, Christian organizations are more successful at restricting policy making leadership, rather than requiring janitorial staff to have shared values.


13 posted on 04/21/2014 12:49:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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I wonder if this is a test case being set up so that the BSA can blame the courts for having to allow gay leadership.

It seems to me that restricting membership based on shared values and belief in God is a lot easier than restricting just leadership positions.

But then again, when it comes to labor law, Christian organizations are more successful at restricting policy making leadership, rather than requiring janitorial staff to have shared values.


14 posted on 04/21/2014 12:49:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: rjsimmon
I thought BSA was all for this?

They will be, when the screws are tightened down enough.

The church should have been the one to evict the troop leader, BTW...

This "church" is run by a liberal witch of a "pastor," fully on board with the queer agenda, and willing to ignore the rules and push to the limits.

15 posted on 04/21/2014 12:53:37 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Olog-hai

You can count on the BSA “To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.”
God Bless the BSA.


16 posted on 04/21/2014 12:55:18 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Government by Gun Point.)
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“Why don’t they just create their own organization called the “Boy and Gay Man Camping Club” and let them seek their own members?”

Why? Because sodomites are parasites, which must invade and feed upon healthy organisms, since they have no moral health in themselves.

17 posted on 04/21/2014 12:56:43 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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This was a pretty rapid test case, only about 4 months after the ban on openly homosexual (i.e. militant) boys was lifted. Actually, this homosexual scoutmaster has been in his position for about this same period of time, so they wasted no time pushing the next limit.

And it will only be a couple more cases before the BSA will cave. They've had plenty of practice.

18 posted on 04/21/2014 12:58:48 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Olog-hai
From the article:
"The Boy Scouts of America told McGrath in a March letter that it "no choice" but to revoke his registration after he said he was gay while being profiled by NBC News."

Notice the subtle language. It's almost like they really want to accept him, if only their arm were not being twisted by some rule that prevents them from accepting his participation in the organization.

A cave is coming.

19 posted on 04/21/2014 1:03:24 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I don’t know about that. There’s St. Marks in Seattle which is Episcopalian, The Church of Christ {Pilgrims} and Lutheran. But of all things we have a First Baptist Church on Capital Hill that is very gay. The University Presbyterian Church is still straight and hosts a great scout troop.


20 posted on 04/21/2014 1:05:30 PM PDT by Vinylly (?)
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