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To: Tailgunner Joe
I try to follow this situation from afar, from the view of studying history as it unfolds.

The only thing impressive about Ukraine so far is that the government and organization of Donetsk seems to be quite competent. I do believe their pronouncements of not using official Russian help, with all of the defections from the Ukraine military and the gear and knowledge of the region they have. Then there's the element in the military Ukraine still has that will not fire on countrymen or babushkas.

That attack on the checkpoint was ill conceived, but what has Kiev done right since the coup?

That's just my take on things. My heart breaks and I pray for those who were killed and their families, in the first few hours of Easter Sunday.

It's the kind of stuff that inspires revolutions. JMHO

4 posted on 04/20/2014 9:50:09 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
The only thing impressive about Ukraine so far is that the government and organization of Donetsk seems to be quite competent. I do believe their pronouncements of not using official Russian help,

I don't understand this statement. The 'government' you're talking about represents the population of a single building. There have already been reports from Roma human rights groups that armed men, claiming to be from the People's Republic of Donetsk, are systematically robbing and beating the Roma. Secondly, the actual seizure of buildings was only partly carried out by these gangsters. They were led by the "little green men," some of whom have had their photographs taken in Crimea, but now are in East Ukraine. Officers of the Russian GRU have also been captured and arrested, and communication intercepted from Moscow.

Unless you don't actually know what's going on in Ukraine by avoiding the news entirely, upon what basis do you make your statements?

That attack on the checkpoint was ill conceived, but what has Kiev done right since the coup?

A coup? This is the language of the criminals in the Kremlin who routinely murder their own people and silence their critics. The "coup," as you put it, ocurred as a direct result of the Kremlin puppet's massive corruption, theft of billions from the Ukrainian treasury, and finally the shootings, which is really what made the matter escalate. He then fled when he realized even his own party condemned him and called him a traitor, saying that he refused their advice and chose to use violence to maintain power.

11 posted on 04/20/2014 10:50:36 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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