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1 posted on 04/19/2014 2:49:05 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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2 posted on 04/19/2014 2:50:42 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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Gotta say, Judge, I am disappointed in this.


3 posted on 04/19/2014 2:52:39 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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I’m in a small minority that thinks the Supreme Court is ill equipped to make any decisions.


4 posted on 04/19/2014 2:54:09 PM PDT by Baynative (Got bulbs? Check my profile page.)
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“it’s not an unreasonable intrusion.”

It is funny that 99% of Free Republic was cheering for Patriot Act back then, calling libtards as anti-Americans for not going with the fed gubmint schemes.


6 posted on 04/19/2014 2:59:07 PM PDT by sagar
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As someone who never went to law school, I don't think it takes a J.D. to notice that the Fourth Amendment only disallows "unreasonable searches and seizures," while the First Amendment says categorically that "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press." Whether a TSA pat-down is a "reasonable search" is a matter of law, but there is no Constitutionally-protected Federal law restricting "the freedom of speech."

P.S. I know "the freedom of speech" is specifically referring to a compact between individuals and society, based on the writings of Locke and Blackstone among others, a "deal" that society would protect the freedom of individuals to state that which they believed to be true based on evidence and reason, and that individuals in return would only state that which they had reason to believe to be true and which protected the life, liberty, and property of others--that is why libel and slander are not protected by the First Amendment. Nevertheless, the Fourth Amendment protection is against "unreasonable search and seizure," while the First Amendment protection is much closer to absolute, as close as possible without turning the Constitution into a suicide pact.

7 posted on 04/19/2014 2:59:08 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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"I don't know how serious the danger is in this NSA stuff, I really don't."

His imagination is dead.

9 posted on 04/19/2014 3:02:03 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Because SCOTUS doesn’t do that anymore??


11 posted on 04/19/2014 3:07:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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Well...the constitution formed the SCOTUS, and it can undo it.


12 posted on 04/19/2014 3:07:44 PM PDT by crz
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Time to flush the SC toilet. If Scalia can’t figure out what’s intrusive to our freedoms, he needs to take a remedial course in Constitutional law. He best do it quick before we send the 101st Airborne to sort out the traitors from the patriots at the NSA.


13 posted on 04/19/2014 3:08:51 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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Yeah. Scalia is a friend of America and the Right. *major eyeroll*


16 posted on 04/19/2014 3:14:13 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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Although I empathize that Justice Scalia is trying to prevent more unnecessary deaths, Harvard Law School-indoctrinated Justice Scalia is effectively wrongly amending the Constitution from the bench concerning 4th Amendment protections imo. The Supreme Court should interpret the Constitution narrowly to give the sleeping states a "kick" to amend the Constitution to more reasonably address today's terrorists.

Regarding how the Constitution should be interpreted, Thomas Jefferson had put it this way.

"In every event, I would rather construe so narrowly as to oblige the nation to amend, and thus declare what powers they would agree to yield, than too broadly, and indeed, so broadly as to enable the executive and the Senate to do things which the Constitution forbids." --Thomas Jefferson: The Anas, 1793.

19 posted on 04/19/2014 3:24:37 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Sorry, Justice Scalia, but it’s a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment.


22 posted on 04/19/2014 3:27:13 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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Justice Scalia is trying to influence the appeals court.

December 16, 2013

A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency’s daily collection of virtually all Americans’ phone records is almost certainly unconstitutional.

U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon found that a lawsuit by Larry Klayman, a conservative legal activist, has “demonstrated a substantial likelihood of success” on the basis of Fourth Amendment privacy protections against unreasonable searches.

The U.S. Government has appealed.


43 posted on 04/19/2014 4:25:17 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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So, an unknown fear is so great that it must supersede our natural rights?

Let me propose to the associate justice that there exists a boogeyman. We cannot tell you what this boogeyman is, or how great it is, or what it does, but we can assure you that it may or may not destroy the entire United States *unless* the Supreme Court of the United States is abolished.

Does this clarify things for him?

Unless the SCOTUS ceases to exist, the “monster” wins, or maybe not. It is a totally faith based monster.

Or maybe if an associate justice looks in a mirror and says “Boogeyman” three times, then the boogeyman comes forth and destroys America. Or maybe not.

It is the magic-based American justice system. It is not a way for a Supreme Court to function.

In a year holding a three, or seven,
or five, or nine, or maybe not,
Two things, might be people, or armies,
or buildings,
Or anything really, blades of grass,
or stoats, or crapulous charlatans
spouting mimsy,
Might do something nebulous.
Insert made-up-bit here.

—Generic Nostradamus Quatrain from
“The Guardian” newspaper


45 posted on 04/19/2014 4:41:05 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (WoT News: Rantburg.com)
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As Ruth has said there are very few freedoms that are absolute.

What's a "freedom"?

A Right?

Or a Privilege?

46 posted on 04/19/2014 5:05:46 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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It’s foolish to keep such ninnies in our Supreme Court.


47 posted on 04/19/2014 5:12:07 PM PDT by bgill
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White Hut must have the goods on Scaalia, same as Roberts. Blackmail is an ugly thing.


53 posted on 04/19/2014 5:33:59 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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60 posted on 04/19/2014 6:46:51 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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Bookmarked, very sadly bookmarked - - - - .


65 posted on 04/19/2014 9:16:03 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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“unreasonable” - the often admitted term

and it IS a qualifying term

and all Scalia is saying he is not sure he, or the Court, really know what is “unreasonable” (searches and seizures) in “the NSA stuff”

it is also Scalia’s way of saying that IF it is agreed by enough of us that it is “unreasonable” then would not legislation be the way to say that


66 posted on 04/19/2014 9:24:16 PM PDT by Wuli
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