Posted on 04/15/2014 7:29:10 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
I don't disagree with anything in your description of the global situation, until this statement. There has always been strong anti-war sentiment in the US. Those who feel that way thought Obama was on their side. But now, the war-weary are on the sidelines, disgusted with Obama's war mongering but certainly not ready to turn to the globalist Republicans and conservatives. The younger generations doesn't connect their lack of opportunity and decline in many aspects of their lives to banker/globalist dominence.
I don't see how it ends well until there's a breakdown of globalist/banker dominated control of just about everything.
Poland, because people have to be lured into submission to the financial elites’ authority with some initial prosperity.
In exchange for that temporary relief, even if it lasts decades, they’ve surrendered the ability to resist future commands from the financial elites.
Much the same as us in America, people in the UK, Europe.
24x7 we are under control of the banksters. We only get the foods they want to provide, the medicines they want to provide, etc. We can’t escape paying them, taxes, rent, interest. A few elites set prices and availability of virtually everything we buy, and our jobs.
Slowly the noose is tightening around our necks, and many choose to live in denial rather than face the fact.
Dude, I do believe you're projecting. You can't open your mouth without talking about having sex with another guy.
“The authenticity of this recording is doubtful. Any competent intelligence agency would obtain more identifiable features, such as known people, before going public with something like this.”
You are entirely wrong. The recording is authentic, and the voice you are hearing is that of Alexander Borodai, a senior ranking general officer and formerly and/or presently a Deputy Director of the FSB (formerly KGB) responsible for special covert operations against the former Soviet republics and other targets requiring special handling. His name has been implicated by a former FSB officer taking refuge in London of being responsible for the alleged FSB false flag terrorist bombing of Russian civilians as a pretext for Russia’s renewed reconquest of Chechnya. He is also been identified as the FSB officer responsible for directing the covert military operations against the other former Soviet republics inlcuding Georgia, Moldova, and the Ukraine.
“Isn’t that one of those Russian brides lines?”
No, it is the telephone number of Alexander Borodai, described by Pravda.ru as the senior ranking general officer and former and/or current Deputy Director of the FSB (formerly KGB) responsible for special covert military operations, such as subversion and false flag intelligence operations. He is alleged to have been the man responsible for the FSB terrorist bombings of Russian civilians used as a false flag pretext for the reconquest of Chechnya, according to an FSB Lieuteneant Colonel who defected to London.
Sorry, you should know better, since you have listened to the recording.
I have now read four other published sources concerning this recording. The recording only refers to "Alexander". The Ukrainian government says it "Alexander" is Russian since the call originated, according to them, from a Russian area code "7". They then take another leap and say, really speculate, that this is the voice of Alexander Borodai.
This doesn't prove anything, and you know it.
Now I'll grant that it may well be Borodai's voice. However, it could also be the voice of a million other Alexanders, or Alexander imposters, in Russia, or in the Ukraine. It could be the voice of Sasha, Dima or Denys with the Ukranian secret police doing their best Alexander Borodai impression. Who knows? ... only the Ukrainians know for sure.
“I have now read four other published sources concerning this recording. The recording only refers to “Alexander”. The Ukrainian government says it “Alexander” is Russian since the call originated, according to them, from a Russian area code “7”. They then take another leap and say, really speculate, that this is the voice of Alexander Borodai.”
You are making a false statement. It was Ukrainska Pravda who reported the telephone number belongs to Alexander Borodai, and not the government of the Ukraine:
Ukrainska Pravda reported that the number belonged to a pro-Kremlin publicist Alexander Borodai, and cited unidentified sources as saying that the man had been entrusted with the “Crimea question” and now is handling the “Donetsk question” in eastern Ukraine. In February, Borodai published a YouTube video, titled: “How to Divide Ukraine.”
It is Pravda.ru in a year 2002 news report which described how Alexander Borodai was in 2002 the Deputy Directorr of the FSB responsible for exactly the kind of covert military operations he is now being linked to directing in the Ukraine in the intercepted telephone call we are listening to in the video.
The disinformation suggesting nothing adverse about the Russian invason of the Ukraine and this intercepted telephone call can be believed because the Russians deny it is simply unbelievable. You heard Alexander Borodai directing the covert Russian military operations in the Ukraine which targeted and killed the Ukrainian defense forces. You can deny and deny and deny till you are blue in the face, but the evidence is stacking up against the Russian war propaganda and propagandists.
Does Putin have a sexual disease, too? An “STB” or “STASI” or “FSB”? Since he’s into taking land, maybe he’s suffering from the “Reid Disease”. Like diarrhea, it runs in the family of tyrants.
It also creates an urge to confiscate other peoples’ lands and blame it on the Tea Party.
Putin does not have to confiscate Ukraine.
The Russian Federation has invested billions in Ukraine in partnership with the European countries and the United States, who have also invested billions there.
The US, Europe and Russia are business partners.
.....(”What did people think would happen when a Soros and sodomite soviet EU backed gang of Neo-Nazis overthrew the legitimate government of Russia’s most important neighbor and strategic ally? That Putin would go into a corner and sulk?”)........
Well the ant-Russian crowd might have hoped so....but I have to say The EU figured since they’d welcomed Putin onto the world stage, as a player among them and International Events, while they played niccey nicey with him..that surely he wouldn’t object....Despite Putin’s warning the Eu to get out of his back yard and stop their encroachment.
They said NO!.....and here we are.
Imo, those sitting in Kiev's Gov. have ‘other’ aspirations concerning how things will be done in Ukraine, now and in the future. They will choose to be autonomous....and deal with both sides just as before...... What is important to the Kiev Gov. is 'they' maintain the seat of power they currently have.
They just sent out their Gov. military, ( against their own constitution law), which they cannot do without declaring martial law and/or a Declaration of war.....so instead they're calling the protesters and militia "Terrorists", and their military troops Anti-terrorist Special Forces Units to justify Military intervention. So those in the seat of power have tasted it and they are not going to let go easily by an election.
Expect the May elections to be detained one way or another.
By your own admission, the sources connecting Alexander Borodai to the recording are "unidentified".
I have no leanings one way or the other on this question. I just cannot see any credibility to these assertions. They may well be correct, but the case has not been made.
“Ukrainska Pravda is an internet newspaper founded by Georgiy Gongadze in 2000. It is not the Russian Pravda.
By your own admission, the sources connecting Alexander Borodai to the recording are “unidentified”.”
I never said Ukrainska Pravda was the Russian Pravda, so you don’t read too well. Ukrainska Pravda provided the information about the telephone number being identified as belonging to Alexander Borodai, who is the same person identified as the so-called publicist. It was the Russian Pravda.ru which supplied me with the additional information about the rest of Alexander Borodai’s publicist, philosopher, and military career with the FSB as its Deputy Director of the FSB and senior ranking general officer responsible for special operations like Chechnya.
“I have no leanings one way or the other on this question. I just cannot see any credibility to these assertions. They may well be correct, but the case has not been made.”
I know of only one Alexander Borodai with the Russian telephone number and a senior positon with the FSB that has sufficient command authority to conduct the type of Russian covert operations being discussed in the recorded telephone conversation. He happens to be the same Alexander Borodai already known to have commanded the exact same kinds of operations in Chechnya, the Crimea, and now the Ukraine.
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