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Sheriff: Feds strategize for 'raid' on ranch [Sheriff Mack]
WND ^ | April 14, 2014

Posted on 04/14/2014 4:29:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Warning follows threat from Harry Reid that grazing dispute 'not over'

The chief of the Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association says his sources inside the federal government are warning that Washington’s weekend retreat in a dispute over grazing land in Nevada was just to distract and defuse – because a raid on the family’s ranch still is being strategized.

And there probably would be violence involved, said Richard Mack, the former sheriff of Grisham County, Ariz.

“I don’t think it would be possible” to launch a raid without violence, he told WND Monday. “I don’t the Bundys would lie down and be taken.”

He cited the threat from Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., that the confrontation was far from over, despite the weekend’s retreat by armed gunmen working for federal agencies.

Reid on Monday told KRNV-TV in Reno. “It’s not over. We can’t have an American people that violate the law and then just walk away from it. So it’s not over.”

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Nevada; US: Utah
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To: MeganC

Yep. Did anybody actually believe the feds were going to admit defeat? Per my post from Saturday:

“They’ll pull out and wait for everybody to go home then come back in the middle of the night with MRAPs, body armor and snipers to finish what they started under cover of darkness and without any witnesses. After that, they can make up any story they wish and blame it on the victims.”


121 posted on 04/14/2014 6:17:03 PM PDT by Flagpole Erectus (Just because I'm paranoid doesn't prove they aren't out to get me. Forget PMs. I gots tinfoil.)
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To: TsonicTsunami08
Just ignore the socialist. It only wants to get a rise out of you by ignoring your point about Bundy's capitulation costing him his livelihood. The King's land belongs to the King, in that worldview, and even if you have to promise your firstborn son before you will be allowed to pay the taxes demanded in order to hunt (ranch) on the King's land, well it is the King's prerogative to demand whatever he wishes.

I agree with you. A man should not have to sign his life away simply to survive. 101ORD is just trying to get you to spout off. Likely it's a fedgov troll, and it's trying to get you to post something questionable in order to sic some JBT slopeheads on you later using that as a justification.

Just put a mental twitfilter in front of the old biddy's posting handle, and it will eventually go away.

122 posted on 04/14/2014 6:17:46 PM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: chicagolady

Bundy ought to renounce his US citizenship and declare himself an illegal alien.


123 posted on 04/14/2014 6:17:57 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Kartographer
OUTSTANDING!!!
124 posted on 04/14/2014 6:18:43 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
"without being hounded for their crimes"

No siree.

HUNG for their crimes and their entire clan destroyed.

That's the way Uncle Sam rolls, why not us?

125 posted on 04/14/2014 6:20:09 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Why has the federal government run all the ranchers off so-called BLM land? And the miners, drillers, loggers, etc. Even the 4 wheelers, campers, hikers, hunters and fishermen?"

Because this land has been MORTGAGED to The Peoples Republic Of China...Collateral so that they will keep buying our deficit.

TREASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

126 posted on 04/14/2014 6:22:19 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: tomkat

Not the scene I was expecting...


127 posted on 04/14/2014 6:22:32 PM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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To: jacquej
i guess we're in big trouble then, cause i don't see that happening...
128 posted on 04/14/2014 6:22:53 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Fitzy_888

Harry gets his Nevada support from the urban dwellers, casinos, unions and johns at the cat house. These little people mean nothing to him, IMO.


129 posted on 04/14/2014 6:23:49 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: abb
i don't have tv... would you pls update when it's over? thx
130 posted on 04/14/2014 6:24:21 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: 1010RD; tomkat; justa-hairyape; roofgoat; MRadtke; Mariner
He’s in the wrong here, even though he has a lot of cause to be dissatisfied. He is misreading the history and needs to pay up those fees. His big issue is the BLM mismanaging those lands and the bias toward species other than human.

The original deal with the BLM was that the NUMEROUS ranchers were to pay the BLM fees for managing the range.

This worked well at first, but then the BLM started using the fees to drive the many ranchers out of business, and stopped using the fees to manage the range.

Are you saying you'd hire a kid to mow your lawn and still keep paying him after you caught him REFUSING to mow the lawn, but was instead spray-painting graffiti on your house with paint cans purchased with YOUR money?

131 posted on 04/14/2014 6:24:35 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Jim Robinson

Well this may well be the opening volley if something should to Mr Bundy and his family...I for one think people should start gumming up the works when it comes to the Federal Gov, passive resistance...see a Federal vehicle out just let the air out of its tires, fail to submit or intentionally screw up Federal documents, etc...be creative.


132 posted on 04/14/2014 6:25:02 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: Hieronymus

Leave it. Bundy’s a mistake. Don’t wrap him up in a good cause. He’s been allowed to flaunt the law and not pay just fees for two decades. He’s a scofflaw, not a revolutionary.

Find those other 50 or so families driven off their land. Let them catalogue the injustices, put that in a YouTube video, do interviews with bloggers and the news media and then you’ll have a cause.

The danger is that Bundy isn’t clean like Rosa Park’s was. We have to be at least as smart as the Civil Rights Movement was. This kind of lost cause rallying is what keeps us losing our rights.


133 posted on 04/14/2014 6:25:25 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jim Robinson

Read an article the other day that stated the feds have spent over 3 million dollars on this operation to date.

3 million to collect 1 million in grazing fees and penalties. Only Uncle Sugar.

Folks are FED-up.


134 posted on 04/14/2014 6:26:47 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: kiryandil

“I want to stress to all of you that as the sheriff of Clark County I cannot interfere with the federal government when it is operating on federal land,” Gillespie said. “And because this is BLM property, it is in its jurisdiction. ”

I do not believe that is a true statement and the good Sheriff knows it


135 posted on 04/14/2014 6:27:29 PM PDT by wrench
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To: MRadtke

You’re mixing up the two causes. Is BLM, EPA and government in general abusive? Yes.

That doesn’t make Bundy right. He’s founded his argument on an unconstitutional basis that is based on a lie. As conservatives we must be absolutely for the truth.

Bundy’s argument as to why he doesn’t have to pay is founded on falsehood.


136 posted on 04/14/2014 6:28:19 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Bundy is no mistake, he and his family has sweated and bled for that land...your argument is specious..


137 posted on 04/14/2014 6:28:30 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: kiryandil

That’s correct, but it’s not Bundy’s original argument for not paying the fees.

Find those other ranchers and bring them to the fore. We have to make this about government abuse and mismanagement not about Cliven Bundy. Bundy’s not a hero, but a kook who, like a stopped clock, is right twice.

Get those other 50 families and you have a cause. Right now it’s a tar baby and the feds will win.


138 posted on 04/14/2014 6:30:35 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

So how many Federal thugs have to die?


139 posted on 04/14/2014 6:32:19 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: 1010RD; Karl Spooner
In the end Bundy’s argument for not paying the fees is a lie. It’s dead wrong, so on all the other counts where he’s right he’ll actually undermine the movement.

Ah, no - the GOVERNMENT is liars, starting with President Simba, and trickling down to all his lying flunkies.

The targeting of Cliven Bundy started with the Clinton administration in 1993.

I guess you're OK with a government conspiring against its citizens...

140 posted on 04/14/2014 6:32:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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