Posted on 04/14/2014 1:25:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
So everybody can do whatever they want regardless of court orders? Don’t complain about anarchists, then.
“Left behind were trailers, generators, personal equipment scattered all over the ground and internal BLM documents left on the table where they had been branding the cattle.”
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2014/04/so-much-for-slow-day-just-got-off-phone.html
Regulations and contracts written in disappearing ink, with new rules made up on the spot depending on whose cash flow was being tapped for the moment.
Golden Rule - them who has the gold makes the rules. Keeping them enforced, however, may take more gold than is easily available.
An evolving arrangement, mutating as we look at it.
By the way, the desert tortoise was never for a moment in any danger from cattle grazing. However, there may be considerable natural gas and petroleum beneath the surface lands, in a formation that can be opened up by hydraulic fracturing, “Fracking”. This alone is enough to set the enviro-weenies and greenies over the edge, that somebody might be able to extract huge supplies of energy and thus make this area into a boom growth location.
LOL, the statue is clearly not in Clark County. Maybe it’s at the Mustang Ranch.
Bingo.
Or lotsa Pb, W & depleted U.
The fact the BLM tried to impair the obligation of this contract by stepping in the middle and demanding payment for the land based on a contract it was NOT a party to, is, itself, Unconstitutional.
Article 1, Section 10, Clause 1:
.......or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts
Bills of attainder, ex post facto laws, and laws impairing the obligation of contracts, are contrary to the first principles of the social compact, and to every principle of sound legislation.
James Madison, Federalist #44
Thank You!
No?
Why should any other American be treated differently?
I say we should cite Bammy's actions as precedence.
You are most heartily welcome!
The 'issue' is quite the opposite.
The BLM does not want cattle on the land. There are environmental laws that have to do with live cattle and exposure to certain hazards on federal land WHEN the government sells or leases that land to foreign investors who want to use it for Solar Power, Water rights/control,Mining, or Drilling.
These cows are holding up the 'deal' that the Reid family is making with foreign investors. Harry himself went overseas to 'recruit' such deals (all legal and planned, and was his 'job' to perform). Our government is trading use or ownership of land in the US to China for all the money we borrowed from them.
Uncontrolled cows on the land requires an extensive Environmental Impact Statement and could halt the 'sale'.
No cows, no problem, Harry Reid's kid makes a fortune.
Lol. Statute.
Sorry.
I was also surprised that some peeps manage to live out there (out of the bottom lands, unlike Cliven).
Let the peeps be. Washington, D.C. needs to be corralled and sold off.
Let me see if I have my facts straight:
1. BLM got this land to preserve and protect it for we, the people.
2. BLM is selling OUR land to the Chinese Communists to build a solar farm and a manufacturing plant.
3. Harry Reid and his son stand to make millions.
4. BLM wants the grazing to stop to protect the desert tortoise.
5. Grazing improves the habitat for the desert tortoise. So much, that the BLM is shooting the tortoises.
6. This ain’t over, folks. And it’s not going to end pretty.
Is that about it?
The Chinese foothold won’t just be for a solar plant.
They’ll bring in intelligence workers and MRAPs of their own, with the muscle to back up their ownership.
I think Clive Bundndy’s family grazing rights were administered by Clark County before the BLM. Clive doesn’t set up the background very coherently.
Lady, there are some real smart people on here, and you are one.
I go at it this way. Since Art 1 Sec 8 the 17th, states specifically what the federal government is allowed to do, and if the state of Nevada passed in its constitution violating that clause-being the 17th enumerated power, then the states constitution is in, that part, unconstitutional. They must amend it.
So, your point, is another way to go at them.
We now have our constitutional crisis. Where the hell is Kevin Gutzman? He is the only one I might refer to in this matter.
“Let’s make sure we get this straight. I would pay my grazing fees to the proper government and I did try to pay my grazing fees to the proper government. I do not have a contract with the United States because I will not sign that contract with the United States,” Bundy explained. “I have no contract. I did not graze my cattle on the United States property. And I would pay my grazing fees to the proper government.”This one sentence tells it all: he's a "freeman on the land" sovereign citizen type. He does not recognize the Constitution of the United States. He doesn't recognize the federal government. He thinks he has to have a "contract" before paying for grazing fees on federal land, which is patent nonsense.
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Since Art 1 Sec 8 the 17th, states specifically what the federal government is allowed to do, and if the state of Nevada passed in its constitution violating that clause-being the 17th enumerated power, then the states constitution is in, that part, unconstitutional. They must amend it.
True, but the federal government also violated the Constitution when they accepted such land when it was for a purpose other than specified....i.e. for the purpose of buildings to provide for the common defense.
Joseph Story quotes Madison's Federalist #43 quite closely when he said§ 1219. The other part of the power, giving exclusive legislation over places ceded for the erection of forts, magazines, &c., seems still more necessary for the public convenience and safety. The public money expended on such places, and the public property deposited in them, and the nature of the military duties, which may be required there, all demand, that they should be exempted from state authority
Nowhere is there authorization for federal public lands for any other purpose.
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