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Nevada Cattle Rancher Wins ‘Range War’ With Feds
Townhall.com ^ | April 14, 2014 | Nick Sorrentino

Posted on 04/14/2014 8:14:59 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Valpal1

The BLM came to the party with armed snipers. What makes you think this is going to be a clean fight? It is time to get out of the grandstands and start cheering for Cliven Bundy. Put on some work clothes and get ready to get your hands dirty.


101 posted on 04/14/2014 11:03:49 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: DoodleDawg

The Feds will come again. But, they are going to have an even harder time winning the PR battle. Sure, there are a few Leftist authoritarians cheering for thugs. But more and more, people opposing tyranny are hardening their positions (literally and figuratively). Those asleep are waking up. The heros will be honored and the names of the thugs will be plastered on the Internet.
The BLM team leader was a guy named Dan Love. Good thing for him and his family that he backed down. We have to convince these barbarians, at each one of these stand-offs, that one second of blood lust will not be worth a life of regret and reprisals, and an eternity in Hell.


102 posted on 04/14/2014 11:06:50 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: HMS Surprise
In previous years the MSM could be counted on to report the news fairly.

That has never been the case in my lifetime. For more than a half century that I know about, the leftists in Big Media have been pathological liars. Only recently has Little Media" been big enough and pervasive enough to counter their lies. So I must ask: To what "previous years" do you refer?

103 posted on 04/14/2014 11:08:13 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: mad_as_he$$

No, he is in defiance of a court order to remove his cattle himself and was given 45 days to comply. The same order authorized the BLM round up after the 45 days.

So now that both elements of the court order are bust (self removal or BLM removal), the judge could easily justify a finding of contempt and an arrest warrant.

I would not expect another show of force, but a quiet arrest in a neutral location when nobody is watching.


104 posted on 04/14/2014 11:08:47 AM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: grumpygresh
But, they are going to have an even harder time winning the PR battle.

So why try? Why risk another backdown if they try and seize his cattle? They'll work behind the scenes and make it impossible for him to sell his cattle or generate income to operate his ranch. They'll tie up his bank acounts, cut off his cash flow, seize whatever funds they can get their hands on, and do it all via computers and the courts. He'll wind up with nothing in the end.

105 posted on 04/14/2014 11:13:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Cyber Liberty
This. This is what they'll do next, to separate Bundy from his supporters. I have either explosives/illegal weapons or child molesting in the betting pool.

And the JBT will use leftist Big Media to spread their lies. Big Media is to be trusted only in one respect: they can be trusted to lie, distort, falsify, fabricate, truncate, dissemble ... they can be trusted to NOT tell the truth.

106 posted on 04/14/2014 11:16:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: mad_as_he$$

I agree, the bear trap was too much. I was actually thinking of something more sophmoric. They could still move out, leave a night vision camera in their house, and put in life size blow-up dolls popping out of doors, and some sounds and noises a la Ferris Bueller.
I would like to see actual footage of a real, unedited SWAT raid in real time. There has been an explosion of SWAT raids, and the public really does need to see one in vivo.


107 posted on 04/14/2014 11:17:29 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Valpal1
I would not expect another show of force, but a quiet arrest in a neutral location when nobody is watching.

That would be the smart thing to do, but it lacks the pizazz the overlords want in order to make an example of Bundy. This is all about the optics. The government has been humiliated, and they want their fireworks. They don't want to quietly euthanize the prisoner in a cell, they want a hanging in the public square.

108 posted on 04/14/2014 11:17:30 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: grumpygresh

Prior BLM abuses in Nevada have been documented.

Same BLM offices were involved in over-reaching enforcement activity from 2007 as quoted and linked below. (My sources indicate that “Roop” was involved, and document references confirming that will be retrieved and provided later today).

In other words,this appears to be part of an ongoing PATTERN of abuse by the BLM in Nevada!

“This year many people entering the events passed a gauntlet of BLM officers looking for any possible vehicle infraction as an excuse to initiate a usually physically probing encounter. People were warned by Rangers that open backpacks were being considered ‘probable cause’ for searches on the open playa. Two large BLM rangers, according to a report I consider probably truthful, pounced on a small woman who had been seen going through her bag, holding a gun to the head of this unresisting but terrified woman while shoving her face into the dirt and forcing her arm behind her back. People caught (urinating) on the playa were often searched, looking for infractions beyond what was initially being cited. People were confronted and asked ‘what they were on’. Participants near the fence who felt intruded upon when approached were ordered to produce their ticket stub, loudly threatening instant ejection from the event.

The Opulent Temple Dome at the 2:00 Esplanade was the site of repeated massive sting operations, many crossing the lines of defensible legality. After being pointed out by camouflage wearing BLM rangers using night goggles people were accosted and searched by teams of up to half a dozen armed rangers. Random camps were invaded by teams of four BLM rangers demanding people turn over drugs and consent to searches, threatening to bring in dogs if they refuse.
In 2006 there were 155 BLM citations, mostly for smoking or having pot. During the 2007 event 331 such tickets were written! The police, apparently on the lookout for more substantial crime, made only 8 arrests in that week. Mark Pirtle, ‘special agent’ for the BLM seems to be the person who shapes the interactions with Burning Man. He announced the suicide at the event, and spread the false story that poor Jerm had hung in full view for two hours , and that ‘His friends thought he was doing an art piece’, which was picked up and echoed worldwide.

His main concern about his agency’s performance at Burning Man was that a lot of potential busts were missed because each citation temporarily removed two agents from patrol and required 10 hours of paperwork. Rather than seeing such misuse of resources to produce petty citations as wasteful, he wants to saturate the event with more officers since the limiting factor in issuing citations seemed to be the rate at which they could be issued and processed. This ludicrous escalation of harassment of the event may be partially prompted by a desire to justify more funding for his rangers’ activities, which could easily cost more than what the existing standards for land permit allocation fees per numbers of people provides. The problem is not a terrible crime wave in Black Rock City, it is the mass disrespect shown for people and for the personal rights we were told were part of what made America special...”

http://www.donaldedavis.com/BM07WEB/BM07page6.html


109 posted on 04/14/2014 11:19:23 AM PDT by research99
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To: grumpygresh

I like that idea.


110 posted on 04/14/2014 11:25:38 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: DoodleDawg

The Feds might not go after Bundy again directly, but they are doing this sort of thing to many other people all over the country. There will be another stand-off somewhere else.
As for Clive Bundy, he’s not afraid to die, so freezing his accounts probably doesn’t scare him. He might have cash and PMs. He might even be able to make a living be becoming some type of folk hero and give public speeches or write a book.


111 posted on 04/14/2014 11:25:43 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t celebrate for too long, the feds will be back.


112 posted on 04/14/2014 11:28:51 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Valpal1
Someone is and will be for sometime watching over him and not just God. I would be surprised if a judge in Nevada, even a Federal one comes up with a bench warrant. I will give that he was in contempt for not removing the cattle himself but the BLM has made that sort of a moot point. Now the BLM will probably try and argue that his failure to comply lead to there failure. That would be interesting in Court. There are also some unconfirmed rumors this am that the Governor is actually engaged and working on a deal. About time.
113 posted on 04/14/2014 11:28:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: grumpygresh
As for Clive Bundy, he’s not afraid to die, so freezing his accounts probably doesn’t scare him. He might have cash and PMs. He might even be able to make a living be becoming some type of folk hero and give public speeches or write a book.

He won't have anything once the feds are done with him.

114 posted on 04/14/2014 11:29:07 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: mad_as_he$$

there=their


115 posted on 04/14/2014 11:30:43 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: research99

Am I wrong to think the Burning Man Festival is not popular among the locals? The BLM and other federales may have been taking some liberties, but I would not be surprised if they had the support of the locals.

Nothing could be farther from this than what happened at the Bundy ranch, where the locals are madder than heck.


116 posted on 04/14/2014 11:30:56 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Valpal1
One more thought. If they arrest him I think an interesting angle would be to argue the BLM is in contempt for NOT rounding the cattle up also. Therefore selective enforcement - judges hate selective enforcement - makes them personally liable.
117 posted on 04/14/2014 11:33:36 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: NorthMountain; Travis McGee

Have you read any of Matthew Bracken’s books? He does a pretty good job of describing how they’ll do it. I pinged him to this post.

This past weekend reads like something straight out of his trilogy.


118 posted on 04/14/2014 11:36:35 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty

Burning man is popular for the money they spend in the Reno area. They are not so popular for everything else they leave behind that is not $$$.


119 posted on 04/14/2014 11:36:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: mad_as_he$$

They’ve been claiming he’s been in violation for 20 years, yet only now have they acted. He might have “squatter’s rights.”


120 posted on 04/14/2014 11:39:31 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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