Posted on 04/14/2014 12:19:11 AM PDT by PaulCruz2016
Well stated.
I love people on here who can’t see the myriad circumstances under which they could find themselves in similar straits.
That is because most of us apply logic and reason rather then rampant emotionalism.
“can i borrow your pen?” stab someone in the head and hand it back to you mr guilty.
Prime example. If you ask me for a pen so you can stab someone in the head I am not going to lend it to you. If I do then there is something wrong with me.
How about you lend a family member 20 bucks who turns around and solicits a child prostitute? Guess what you little enabler you. Guilty.
Another good example of rampant emotionalism with no logic to back it up. Would I lend $20 bucks to some one who told me that he intended to hire a child prostitute with it? No.
we can go on and on but i’m quite certain that anyone who can say its not the point whether he knew or not will never admit to being wrong.
You certainly can go on and on but you apparently can not see beyond your emoting to the fact that if he knew has everything to do with the case.
In this case you are flat out wrong.
Having served on a jury, I doubt this story. It is very difficult to get a murder conviction, much less when you were asleep at the time of the murder.
Hey Brainiac.
i wasn’t wrong.
i responded to ‘Sorry but the point is if he did or did not know.”
You see at that point your post was over. You wasted a bunch of typing. You set me up with a line that you never meant and then refute the argument i made to that mistake.
So no. You were wrong.
apology accepted and i don’t need to ever hear another word from you. go play on the Huff Post.
When NYT reported on this story in 2007 they reported the detail that Holle testified that he was told they might need to knock out Jessica Snyder. He not only knew about the burglary, but also knew they intended to steal the drugs by violence if necessary. That’s why he was convicted of felony murder. He claims now that he thought it was all a joke. Which I’m calling BS on and so did the jury obviously, finding him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
I’ve seen this story told at least 3 other times since it happened, it’s more like a folk tale each time as more and more of the facts of his guilt are whitewashed. I expect the next incarnation to read that his roommate took the car without his knowledge at all.
People get scared because they think “it could be me! I lend my car to my friend all the time!” But unless your friend told you they intended to use it to rob someone by force and then killed them when it went pear-shaped you’ll be fine. I’m amenable to revisiting felony murder as law, as a lot of other countries have, but that’s a seperate issue. The prosecutor recognized his lesser involvement and offered him, and only him, a plea deal of 10 years. Holle rejected that offer and would already be out if he’d taken it. The killer was up for the needle, but ultimately he and all the rest of them got LWOP.
I have very little sympathy for Holle at the moment.
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