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Rangeley fire chief tells Senate subcommittee people ‘vaporized’ in Quebec rail disaster
bangordailynews.com ^
| April 09, 2014, at 6:25 p.m.
| Nick Sambides Jr., BDN Staff
Posted on 04/13/2014 8:40:38 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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posted on
04/13/2014 8:40:38 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
To: BenLurkin
Video or it didn't happen.
/johnny
To: BenLurkin
Pipelines are infinitely safer than rail cars. Sierra Club types don’t want us building pipelines.
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posted on
04/13/2014 8:57:04 PM PDT
by
50sDad
(A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
To: JRandomFreeper
You’d really want to see video of that?
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posted on
04/13/2014 8:57:19 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: 50sDad
Probably because they are safer.
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posted on
04/13/2014 8:58:15 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
To: BenLurkin
No, but it's my way of calling bullshit.
I doubt people were vaporized by burning oil as they stepped out of their house.
My grandfather was working on an oil rig that hit a gas pocket. It ignited. He lasted 2 weeks. 2 horrible weeks.
He damn sure wasn't vaporized.
/johnny
To: 50sDad
"Pipelines are infinitely safer than rail cars. Sierra Club types dont want us building pipelines."
But the pipeliners aren't contributing to the politically correct campaigns like the modern day 'Rockefellers' are.
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posted on
04/13/2014 9:37:58 PM PDT
by
fella
("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
To: BenLurkin
Call it the Buffet tax. He’s the one profiting most from rail-based oil transport, and seems to have the ear of this administration.
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:16:46 PM PDT
by
AZLiberty
(No tag today.)
To: AZLiberty
Oops, make that Buffett, not Buffet.
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:17:49 PM PDT
by
AZLiberty
(No tag today.)
To: JRandomFreeper
OK, they were incinerated.
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:19:34 PM PDT
by
Kirkwood
(Zombie Hunter)
To: JRandomFreeper
I don’t think the fire chief meant, “vaporized”, as in an instantaneous combustion. He probably meant it in terms of the degree of combustion. Once the people in the town were set afire by the oil, they were consumed until nothing substantial was left.
I think we can also accept some degree of exaggeration considering these people were ones he knew, and possibly were related to.
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:34:14 PM PDT
by
Jonty30
(What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
To: AZLiberty
This was a Canadian railway. They left the unattended train parked on a grade overnight with one engine idling to keep the brake pressure up. That engine caught fire, the fire department came and put the fire out, and the engine was shut off. When the brakes released, the train rolled downgrade into Lac Megantic.
I don't know what share of that railroad Buffet owned, but it went bust. If I recall correctly, Buffet is invested in BNSF, an American railroad.
The big hit here is to place the public focus on the one working transport mechanism that hauls most of the crude oil from the Williston Basin (Bakken/Three Forks oil). If the transport mechanism is shut down by popular acclaim, some 750,000 barrels of oil a day won't make it to refineries, and a huge economic light will be extinguished.
People have come to North Dakota from all over the US and beyond to work in the oil industry or related good paying jobs, but it could look as dismal as other parts of the country if they can find a way to shut it down.
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:36:34 PM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: JRandomFreeper
Crude oil doesn’t burn hot enough to instantly vaporize a human body.
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:37:28 PM PDT
by
smokingfrog
( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
To: JRandomFreeper
Sorry about your grandfather, Johnny. None of us wants anything like that to happen. I know, I work out there.
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:38:05 PM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: smokingfrog
Are we going to discount people’s testimonies, because they don’t quite use the vernacular correctly?
I don’t think he meant necessarily the word to mean how quick the people burned, but to the degree that they burned.
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:46:45 PM PDT
by
Jonty30
(What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
To: Jonty30
Pellerin was among several people who testified to the committee in support of a $40 million appropriation that would be used to prepare fire departments nationwide for oil fires like Lac-Megantic. Pellerin wouldn't have any reason to exaggerate the fact$, would he?
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posted on
04/13/2014 10:59:23 PM PDT
by
smokingfrog
( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
To: Smokin' Joe
That engine caught fire, the fire department came and put the fire out, and the engine was shut off. When the brakes released, the train rolled downgrade into Lac Megantic. Don't know squat about railroads. But, isn't their something like chocks that can mecanically lock railcars. Leaving an unattended engine seems nuts to me.
To: JRandomFreeper
Depends on how big the fireball was
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posted on
04/13/2014 11:05:06 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
But, isn't their something like chocks that can mecanically lock railcars. Leaving an unattended engine seems nuts to me. Each car has a set of hand-operated mechanical brakes. The policy is to lock down enough cars to keep the train from moving, even if the air compressor on the engine fails.
In this case, the engineer who was responsible evidently failed to lock down enough cars.
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posted on
04/13/2014 11:05:31 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media -- IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: Jonty30
“Stepped out and were vaporized.”
Sounds like a humongous fireball to me
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posted on
04/13/2014 11:06:21 PM PDT
by
HiTech RedNeck
(Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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