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THE BUNDY DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT ON GOVERNMENT TERRORISM AGAINST HER FAMILY! (Nevada Rancher)
America's Freedom Fighters ^ | Apr 9, 2014 | Clark Kent

Posted on 04/10/2014 11:32:07 AM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

If the owner is ‘us,’ has he been sending you a dividend on the money he saved by grazing his cattle for free on ‘our’ land? Or some steaks?


81 posted on 04/10/2014 12:53:27 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis

Just a reminder, the federal government does not have rights - it has powers.


82 posted on 04/10/2014 12:53:50 PM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: AppyPappy

He never owed any fees!

The imposition of fees was unlawful.

I hope they impose fees to your toilet seat next.
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83 posted on 04/10/2014 12:53:56 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Lou Budvis
I don’t see how “why?” makes any difference.

Somebody wants him off that land, and it's costing us a bunch of money to do it for no good reason that I can see.

84 posted on 04/10/2014 12:54:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: taxcontrol
Then when Bundy stopped paying his grazing lease, he stopped having access rights to that land.

That's not the way the daughter explains it, nor the way he explained it on TV last night.

So, there are 2 sides to this story, and today the Nevada Governor slammed the Fed and not Bundy.

85 posted on 04/10/2014 12:54:41 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: tacticalogic

We don’t need no stinking reasons...


86 posted on 04/10/2014 12:57:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: tacticalogic

Dollars to donuts that Reid ends up with his ranch after he is either killed and his family bankrupted and imprisoned or he is imprisoned along with his family.


87 posted on 04/10/2014 12:57:18 PM PDT by sport
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To: editor-surveyor

Then why did he pay them?


88 posted on 04/10/2014 12:57:29 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: taxcontrol
The land that the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo brought into the United States became, between 1850 and 1912, all or part of ten states: California (1850), Nevada (1864), Utah (1896), and Arizona (1912), as well as the whole of, depending upon interpretation, the entire state of Texas (1845) that then included part of Kansas (1861), Colorado (1876), Wyoming (1890), Oklahoma (1907), and New Mexico (1912).

Let me understand your logic, so the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo gave all this land to US Government and anyone on the land can be removed? So for all of California and Texas the people need to leave?

89 posted on 04/10/2014 12:57:34 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: WayneS

Can be but the Constitution does not require it to be. And since it is not ... the full powers of the enumerated Congressional legislative authority apply.


90 posted on 04/10/2014 12:58:26 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: 4Zoltan

Adverse possession? That’d be an interesting argument.

The BLM stopped taking proper care of the land. The rancher maintained the land for ‘x’ number of years at his expense - therefore he claims it as his own.

It might actually be worth a try, depending upon the length of time stipulated I Nevada law before such a claim to be made. And assuming, of course, that he really did pay for all maintenance and improvements on the land.


91 posted on 04/10/2014 12:58:30 PM PDT by WayneS (Help Control Politician Overpopulation - Spay or Neuter Your Senator or Congressman Today!)
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To: Lou Budvis

And I haven’t been sending him a check for when I walk in the parks, either....free of charge. They eat the grass; I trample the grass AND fish in the waters with a STATE fishing license. I didn’t send him any smoked trout.

We the people...own the land. There is nothing in the Constitution that gives the Federal government authority to own vast tracts of land.

The 10th amendment then, gives it to the states or to the people.

The Fed’s out of control, Lou. I’m sure you realize that.


92 posted on 04/10/2014 12:58:32 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: butterdezillion

“NO WAY would our people or Eric Holder’s justice department EVER let the NSA get away with a scandal or something bad against this country.”

Live in a fantasy world much? Really? Eric Holder? You put much faith in such? Bet the next thing will be that you think Lerner is being set up. Naw, they aint doing anything wrong now are they?


93 posted on 04/10/2014 12:58:34 PM PDT by crz
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To: IYAS9YAS

>> “Look, the guy, by the law, has been trespassing. It was never his land” <<

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Your ignorance is impressive.


94 posted on 04/10/2014 12:59:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: taxcontrol

I didn’t resort to any name calling. None. Why are you resorting to lying?


95 posted on 04/10/2014 12:59:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: 4Zoltan

I do not think you can get a prescriptive easement against the federal gov’t because easements are an issue of state law and therefore cannot override federal law.

Further, his payment for grazing in the past indicates that he acknowledges that the land is not his.


96 posted on 04/10/2014 1:01:15 PM PDT by Lou Budvis
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To: AppyPappy

Fear, plain and simple.

Same stupid reason that we obey their unconstitutional gun laws.
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97 posted on 04/10/2014 1:01:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: taxcontrol

Once he stopped paying he gave up his “rights”. Sounds like the Feds bent over backwards on this one.


98 posted on 04/10/2014 1:02:58 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: editor-surveyor

Well, you can’t pay them and then not pay them.

It’s time for Mr Bundy to come out of the closet and declare he is a proud gay man. That will screech everything to a halt.


99 posted on 04/10/2014 1:04:08 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: xzins

>> “There is nothing in the Constitution that gives the Federal government authority to own vast tracts of land.” <<

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True, in fact, they are forbidden to own any land but the reservations that were specified.
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100 posted on 04/10/2014 1:04:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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