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The Root of Liberalism
4/4/2014 | myself

Posted on 04/04/2014 8:46:12 AM PDT by Crucial

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To: KrisKrinkle

What really separates liberals and conservatives is the reaction to feelings of inadequacy, which we all have at one point or another. The liberal blames others for this feeling. The conservative rises above it through introspection and work.


21 posted on 04/04/2014 10:29:10 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
What they don’t see are the people who organized all of this sitting at Lutece, eating lobster and drinking 200 dollar bottles of wine and mocking these idiots.

That's right. They are easily manipulated as they are driven by their fear, their fear of not measuring up and consequently wanting others to pay for it.

22 posted on 04/04/2014 10:32:23 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Ohioan
You are correct in seeing the faux "Liberalism," as rooted in a compulsive neurosis, however each of you may specifically want to label the malady. But please, even sarcastically do not suggest that there is anything actually utopian in a monolithic, collectivist egalitarian society.

I've always understood utopia to be an egalitarian idea as it describes a "perfection" that in the end is inhumane as it stunts individual exceptionalism.

23 posted on 04/04/2014 10:37:22 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Zeneta
By this I mean that they think everything is relative and therefore nothing is certain.

And of course this is a cop out on the liberals' part. If everything is relative then there is no failure and that protects the liberal's ego. And the educational system and the media protects its participants and viewers from the reality of failure and injects relativism for that purpose. Examples of this is common core in the classroom and the extreme lack of due diligence on the part of media types whose IQ appears to be below average now. This, in the end, produces even more liberals and liberal thinking, covering for their inadequacies in the face of stark reality.

24 posted on 04/04/2014 10:46:35 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Crucial

Yes.

You must watch the video I sent you.

Here’s a more recent speech by Evan Sayet. (38 mins)

More to your comments. They are now able too, and live in a world where “political correctness” and “Peer Pressure” are the only forces driving their need for acceptance.

As I mentioned earlier, we have reached critical mass. A tipping point in our culture.

It is not only the “Embrace of Uncertainty”, but the confidence to promote uncertainty as the only thing we can be certain of.

Circular argument I know.

But this is the foundation of the left in our country.


25 posted on 04/04/2014 11:05:25 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11G6yVGQOtI


26 posted on 04/04/2014 11:06:15 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Captain Compassion
The liberal is the child...

Love it. ZirconEncrustedTweezers quotes PJ O'Rourke is reply #9 says the same thing, but I like the way you say it. That is a keeper. (profile page) I would only add that their is a spiritual aspect to Liberalism in that they are terribly prone to covet. From there, the are willing to steal, lie, commit adultery and even murder.

27 posted on 04/04/2014 11:19:39 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Zeneta

An illogical hit parade. Everything is relative, except, of course, for their belief that everything is relative. They’re certain of that.

And they’re certain of only their uncertainty.

So there’s no wonder they can’t be reasoned with. There’s no reason in them. They reject rational thought.

I think the fundamental problem is they’re morally insane. People who reject rational thought really don’t have walking around sense. If the SHTF, they’ll have a life expectancy measured in minutes.


28 posted on 04/04/2014 11:32:05 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: Crucial
I've always understood utopia to be an egalitarian idea as it describes a "perfection" that in the end is inhumane as it stunts individual exceptionalism.

Yes, it does stunt individual exceptionalism. But it is an end that would take any tribe or community back to the beginning of social progress, which occurs when the tribe abandons the idea that all men perform the same tasks, and all women perform the same tasks. Virtually all progress stems not from egalitarian pursuits, but from a division of labor.

Nor for that matter, is the egalitarian notion of one man/one vote as the basic determinant of a group's direction, anything better than mob rule. You do not determine moral direction by counting noses--and certainly not once the imaginary grievance game--as old as the manipulation of Eve in Genesis--is applied by those pseudo idealists, whom you describe.

29 posted on 04/04/2014 11:36:47 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: afsnco

And somehow this group of irrationalists have adopted “Reason” as their position.

Go figure.

Their “reason” is science and their science is that of uncertainty.

“Reason vs. Religion”

Their brains should explode with contradiction.

No Science, No Logic and No Morality: Atheism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hsZIauQex4


30 posted on 04/04/2014 11:46:00 AM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

Video is very profound. Evan Sayet nails it.


31 posted on 04/04/2014 11:46:31 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Crucial

Liberalism, like cancer, is not one disease but many.


32 posted on 04/04/2014 1:43:09 PM PDT by NaturalBornC1t1zen (Man Plans and the Gods Laugh.)
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To: Zeneta

He says that the modern liberal rejects rationality because it lead to an imperfect past. I like the way he thinks, clear and gets to the essence of an argument. Liberals are simply cowards, cowering in the face of history and betraying the future as a result.


33 posted on 04/06/2014 8:32:00 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Crucial

Thanks for posting on this topic.

If you have additional posts, please include me.

I’ve looked at this issue for quite some time and believe it is critical to understand before crafting a message that will reach them. There’s an old saying about “knowing your audience” that comes to mind.

If you recall, Reagan didn’t seek support from or speak to the desires of so-called disenfranchised groups. He spoke to the individual.

Democrat/Liberal/Progressive politics have quickly devolved into defining individuals as part of one or more groups. They establish the narrative by first getting people to think/believe they are part of a group. After all, people want to think they are not alone. They set up the “boogeyman”, Republicans, as the reason they are miserable or how Republicans are at war against their group.

Many, maybe most of these constituents will now only hear what they want to hear.

This is Sales, pure and simple. Not sales 101, but 2 or 301 to be sure.

It’s my belief that the reasons why a conservative message is not received is because the media and the circles of their influence kill the messenger. They kill the messenger first and foremost. It was on Fox or Fuax News, Drudge etc etc etc...

There is tremendous peer pressure on them to reject any and all information if the source can be defined as conservative.

If you listen to 0bama and Holder more recently, they accuse their opponents of doing what they themselves are doing. It’s an extraordinary display, but it works.

It works because 0bama and his administration are considered a “trusted source”. To challenge 0bama would be to challenge their peer group and that is a scary lonely place to go.

What this looks like is a “feedback loop”, positive for them, negative for us.

As I’ve asked before, “When does the liberal snake realize he is eating his own tail?”

Sadly, I think it won’t be for quite some time.

Liberal positions are like circular arguments. There is no logic. In order for them to keep their heads from exploding they reject the logic and anyone that posits it, and then they can start over.

All safe and secure.


34 posted on 04/09/2014 4:28:23 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

“If you listen to 0bama and Holder more recently, they accuse their opponents of doing what they themselves are doing. It’s an extraordinary display, but it works”

This is what Charles Krauthammer termed “transference”-when you accuse someone of something you yourself are guilty of. This way the liberal can cast blame on his enemy and protect himself.


35 posted on 04/09/2014 8:54:39 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Crucial

Yes, and where does this leave us ?

You and I know that there are literally two realities of belief or understanding between the zombies and us.

Our world tends to deal in facts. Theirs a world of what they “think” things should be like. They hope and dream that human nature can be changed, can evolve to a point where there are no facts, where everything is relative.

They admit that they don’t know anything and the only thing they do know, is that those that reject their uncertainty, are somehow their mortal enemy.

Think about this.

If you reject their “uncertainty” you are wrong.

This is their foundation.

The only people wrong, in their eyes, are the folks that “judge” the actions of others. This has deep Christian roots. It’s an issue of forgiveness. Christians forgive the person, while not their acts.

They have taken the “you have no right” to “judge me” from the bible, and applied it, used it, against us.

They are right to a certain extent, however the difference is in that while us Christians forgive, they push and push what may be considered forgivable.

As a Christian, I am against the death penalty.

As a Christian, I am against abortion.

As a Christian, I am against gay marriage.

As a Christian, I can forgive an individual.

My forgiveness is not important.

They know this and reject forgiveness as being judgmental.

And now they have created a safe place for themselves to promote their indifference. A place in which the media and virtually every aspect of their social interactions feed into the promotion of their “Embrace of Uncertainty”


36 posted on 04/11/2014 3:25:16 PM PDT by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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