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To: SADMILLIE

So if a US citizen living in London on a job has his pregnant US citizen wife join him for a week and she goes into early labor and produces a child, that child is NOT a US citizen?


7 posted on 04/02/2014 7:12:02 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I support Joe Carr in the TN GOP Primary against Lamar!)
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To: Fledermaus

It is not a question of “Citizen”. It is a question of being within the confines of US borders. Trust me.


11 posted on 04/02/2014 7:22:21 PM PDT by SADMILLIE
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To: Fledermaus

So if a US citizen living in London on a job has his pregnant US citizen wife join him for a week and she goes into early labor and produces a child, that child is NOT a US citizen?

Can be a citizen but shouldn’t be allowed to run for President. We have only had 44 Presidents. Even McCain shouldn’t have been qualified. Yes I know his Father was in the military but you know life isn’t fair. My son was born in Italy while I was stationed in Italy and he shouldn’t be qualified to be President. We have ONLY had 44 people as President. Certainly a qualification of being born in the US should be a mandatory requirement…..WE HAVE ONLY HAD 44 PRESIDENTS….44 people out of at least 2 billion people. We should make it as difficult as possible for goodness sake. 44 People!!!! That is it! We should be able to find someone qualified who was born in the US.


21 posted on 04/02/2014 7:34:24 PM PDT by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: Fledermaus
So if a US citizen living in London on a job has his pregnant US citizen wife join him for a week and she goes into early labor and produces a child, that child is NOT a US citizen?

Citizen? Yes, probably a citizen of the US and possibly a native born citizen of GB, depending on the treaties in place and each nations' laws regarding citizenship.

But not a natural born American citizen, as I understand the term.

Natural born citizenship, as I understand the term, is an exclusive form of citizenship, since Mom's and Dad's citizenship are of the same place the child is born, there are no other options for that child's citizenship.

It's a "pure" form of citizenship that differs in purity than the less pure Native born, as I understand those terms.

The most diluted form would be if mom's citizenship and dad's citizenship are each from different nations and the child is born in yet another nation than either of the nations the parents are citizens of.

That child potentially has citizenship in three different nations, depending on the treaties.

As such, I don't know which nation or parent would have the stronger claim to that child, the father, the mother or the nation where s/he was born.

But there's no way that's Natural Born Citizenship, as I understand the term and its use in our Constitution.

However, if the NBC requirement is removed from the Constitution and changed to just "citizen", then this argument goes away.

Otherwise, NBC means born here to American citizens, as I understand it from what I learned in grade school and through researching the terms in the many, many arguments since obama was installed.

If you liked the many attempts to get that issue before the courts, including that of Lt. Col. Lakin, the Army Dr. who refused to follow obama's orders until the issue was ruled upon and wound up in the brig, then you'll love it should Cruz, born in Canada to a Cuban father and an American mother, run for POTUS.

47 posted on 04/02/2014 9:36:36 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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