This article outlines a new abusive method to stop mining from ever even entering a permitting process.
The fact that there are over 60 permits required by various local/state/Federal agencies and a 7 to 10 year process to open a mine is ridiculous.
The federal EPA needs to be disbanded. It's federal government overreach into States powers.
/johnny
imagine eating only grubs and berries, living in a mud hut, wearing feathers, and singing “Ain’t this just a paradise ?”
that’s what these Aholes have in mind for us.....IF WE ALLOW IT !
The EPA is the fourth branch of government.
Another good example of this is the Keystone XL pipeline issue. The Obama administration isn't opposed to Keystone XL on environmental grounds. It's blocking the construction of the pipeline because the railroad industry (including the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railroad, which is wholly owned by Warren Buffett) is moving crude oil all over North America.
The Rats won’t be in power forever.
The leadership of the EPA, for the most part, esp. the political appointees, are beyond salvaging. Honest employees are lower down on the food chain.
Carol Browner - socialist, International Socialists organization
Lisa Jackson (just resigned recently), Browner’s protege’ and rabid marxist
Gina McCarthy- present EPA administrator. I’m afraid of her. Very extreme and possibly a back alley fighter.
There are some very good EPA programs and some that are designed by marxists to cripple our economic system in the name of snail darter fish. There are also some leftist judges who are helping them.
Meanwhile people can’t get jobs, the Red China have a vise on our nuts vis-a-vis “rare earth” minerals necessary for national defense, among other things, and Russia will probably make another attempt to become the number one supplier of Gold and some other precious metals badly needed by the electronics industry, among others.
Some environmental groups are legit; some are far-left marxists and eco-wackos. The Left opposes everything no matter how good or bad it is. Their goal is to destroy our economy, not improve it. Sierra Club has gone far left. Natural Resources Defense Fund has always been left. Same with EarthWatch, Environmental Action Fund/Foundation, and elements within the National Wildlife Federation (which my wife once worked for). The Center for Biological Diversity is the arch-type of the “neo-progressives” organization - well funded, educated staff (not necessarily smart staff), and dedicated to “environment uber alles”.
You’d be surprised at how many leftist groups there are concerning the environment. They Left got smart in the late 80’s/early 90’s. They seized on the “Green Movement” and got control of a significant portion of it, and the foundations money that came with it.
We are talking tens of millions of dollars, or more. They are a well funded marxist/progressive/liberal army, like the jungle ants of Brazil, marching over everything in their way.
The EPA is both their friend and their enemy, but they often sue the EPA in order to get “friendly decisions” in which they are paid large settlement accounts including attorneys’ fees. Big scam operation which needs immediate House congressional hearings.
Congress is NOT going to “put checks and balances on the EPA” until it recognizes that the EPA is the “enemy” of our economic system, not necessarily the savior of it.
Defunding some of its operations will partially cripple it. Investigations might expose the marxist principles its leaders follow. Only “regime change” at the White House level is going to “reform” the EPA by cleaning out the reds and putting in some rational scientists who can balance the environment and the economy.
Don’t hold you hat for that day to come soon. Nov. 2014 elections might be the start of EPA reform but Nov. 2016 is the big enchilada, winner take all.
40,000 people or more out of work in the San Joaquin Valley farming mecca because the EPA and California reds won’t give them water while the snail darter fish is held up as a god to be worshipped by the GAIA for Lunch Bunch.
a) Weakens America/AmericansI have yet to have anyone raise a single substantive counter example in several years of posting this.
b) Distances America's allies
c) Strengthens America's enemies
d) Serves Islam
e) Harms Israel
Or some combination of the above.
a, c...
So instead of mining and using our own resources, we prohibit it’s extraction or ship it off elsewhere (like our oil and coal)?
-PJ
“Brother, you asked for it!”
It’s not the environment.
It’s about destroying the American economy.
Those of us who are real environmentalists want clean air and water. And I expect government at some level to enforce standards so offenders are not able to dump ridiculous amounts of pollutants into the air and water. So I don’t fall into the camp of anything goes. I’ll let others quibble over where the function exists.
Unfortunately the environmentalist movement was hijacked long ago by kooks. The current EPA is out of control and now just contains leftist political hacks. It needs to be stopped.
If you can’t grow it or harvest it you must mine it.
Too bad our “leaders” don’t know that.
Wonder how the miners at Silver City NM will feel as they voted for the “O”.
The proposed mine is in the Bristol Bay, Alaska watershed - while that means virtually nothing to most FRers, the watershed is the home of the last remaining largest run of Sockeye (Red) salmon in the world - the largest was the Columbia River run which was destroyed by the Columbia River dams in the 1940s - the only people to protest and predict the outcome were the commercial fishermen who caught the salmon. Today, millions of Federal tax dollars are spent on a semi-fruitless effort to barge the remaining fry around those same dams and to create bypasses to allow adults to get up river.
No matter what some mining company proposes to prevent highly toxic waste water spills, or what permits it obtains will guarantee that no spill will occur. One small accidental spill would be enough to decimate the runs to the rivers.
As a former commercial fisherman who fished Bristol Bay, I can testify that any mine in the watershed would spell the end of its lucrative salmon fishery. The land is very fragile and in a very geologically active area. So would you chose the destruction of the salmon runs, the destruction of an historic and lucrative fishery over the production of copper?
Keep in mind while you decide that the most productive farmland in the US has either now been paved over - New Jersey, Washington State, and lately the man-made drought in the San Joaquin Valley, CA, the third largest Sockeye run to the Frazier River, Vancouver, Canada destroyed by a landslide while building a railroad (that run was recovered by the financial sacrifice of US and Canadian commercial Sockeye fisherman over 50 years - something that would not happen today in the same situation),
Is the production of minerals more important than the access to cheap, healthy food? The food on your grocer's shelves does not grow in cans nor appear fully formed in packages. Is your preference to eat food grown or caught in China or some other country? Does crunching down on copper ore give you a satisfying meal?