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Decision was unanimous. Opinion for the Court by Sotomayor; concurrence by Scalia (who reads the statute's "physical force" language more narrowly than the majority, but still concludes there was enough here to convict). And, surprisingly, a concurrence by Alito and Thomas, which reads the statute more broadly than the majority (according to them, even a slap is enough to constitute "physical force").
1 posted on 03/26/2014 12:30:59 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The Court's opinion is here .
2 posted on 03/26/2014 12:31:46 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Even with my first wife, I was never a “hitter”. But “physical force” could be pretty broadly defined to include the action of husbands AND wives in most marriages at one time or another, especially in their younger years.

My ex pushed me so hard in the chest once tht she fell backwards on her butt. If that had been on camera and I had pressed misdemeaner domestic abuse charges and she was convicted, she could never own a gun.

But maybe this involves more serious physical force.


4 posted on 03/26/2014 12:37:32 PM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Next will be a ban on persons convicted (or plea bargaining) to any misdemeanor.


6 posted on 03/26/2014 12:41:21 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregNH; Salvation; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

9 posted on 03/26/2014 12:44:05 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Moving towards a banana republic every day.....


10 posted on 03/26/2014 12:44:19 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I decided long ago that I WILL own guns no matter what laws the government may pass or what the Supreme Court rules constitutional... and by the look of the 85% of Connecticut so called “assault” weapon owners who ignored the registration laws, I’m far from alone...


11 posted on 03/26/2014 12:44:38 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Lurking Libertarian

If I am on a jury and charges based on federal or state gun control laws are at issue - I will never find enough evidence presented for a guilty vote. And, yes I will look the judge in the eye and tell I will follow the law as he claims it is.


12 posted on 03/26/2014 12:45:59 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

It doesn’t get much easier than this kind of misdemeanor, to take away a persons freedom forever, and people know it, and use it in arguments.

Many gun owners and concealed carry people are finding themselves being forced into passivity even in casual arguments, people know that a simple phone call can bring down on your head, the biggest and darkest events of your entire life.


13 posted on 03/26/2014 12:46:42 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

If there’s a victory here it’s a capital “V” Victory against becoming involved in any domestic relationship. People who argued this case might well have wished they made this a larger point.

Remember that quaint bit of crap about sanctity of marriage, a special relationship, in which spouses couldn’t be compelled to testify against each other because of the importance of family. It seems special isn’t so special anymore.


15 posted on 03/26/2014 12:47:01 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Yet another reason why young men should never marry. Ever.

The law is so grossly stacked against men by “feminists” that the only prudent course of action is to boycott marriage and the legal snares that women’s groups have created for men.


16 posted on 03/26/2014 12:47:30 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Lurking Libertarian

If this is just a Federal law, it doesn’t mean anything. The Obama administration says that Federal laws are not valid if you don’t like them. Today we march, tomorrow we vote.


17 posted on 03/26/2014 12:48:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Trust no one.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
We are all violent domestic abusers now.
19 posted on 03/26/2014 12:49:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money has obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it has earned it.")
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...where no proof of physical violence is required...

So all liberals have to do is get the list of homes owned by registered gun owners, make up some excuse purporting some kind of "attack" and then the gun owner loses his right to own guns. Where, again, is this stipulated in the Constitution?

20 posted on 03/26/2014 12:53:13 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

The tree of liberty needs a good watering.


28 posted on 03/26/2014 1:07:22 PM PDT by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
This was a common form of punishment for wife beaters until some do gooders demanded they be punished as regular criminals, with jail time insetead of whippings.


33 posted on 03/26/2014 1:16:26 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Must be all of the States gave up that right to decide for themselves on that issue...


38 posted on 03/26/2014 1:36:03 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

If mere allegations are enough then lying to the police is now practically legal. Especially when a woman is lying about a man...to the police!


42 posted on 03/26/2014 1:48:35 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

This is an evil opinion. Does someone accused of wrongdoing - which is all some states require - lose their right to self-defense? Frankly, does ANY ex-con lose the right to defend himself, and does that loss continue forever and ever? It goes against the laws of nature and the Lord to say that a man cannot defend himself from attack, unless it is a very special situation such as a prison.


46 posted on 03/26/2014 2:24:59 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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Just another in a long series of anti-marriage anti-family hits aimed at regular Americans.

The majority of Americans need to take our country back. . Is it time? Time to water the tree of liberty yet?

Personally, I'm waiting to see if America does a complete tsunami on November 4, 2014. If not, or if the elections are hijacked, count me in November 5th!

"During the American Revolution, the active forces in the field against the King’s tyranny never amounted to more than 3% of the colonists. They were in turn actively supported by perhaps 10% of the population. In addition to these revolutionaries were perhaps another 20% who favored their cause but did little or nothing to support it. Another one-third of the population sided with the King (by the end of the war there were actually more Americans fighting FOR the King than there were in the field against him) and the final third took no side, blew with the wind and took what came."

49 posted on 03/26/2014 3:01:51 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

ILLINOIS STATE RIFLE ASSOCIATION

March 27, 2014

ALERT - SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT
Accessories to (Your) Murder

When it became inevitable that Illinois would finally enact concealed carry, leaders of the pro-self defense movement began preparing for the political and legislative backlash that was sure to follow. After all, the gun-grabbers had invested a lot of money and political capital into stalling Illinois’ efforts to become the 50th state permitting citizens to defend themselves. Oddly, some within the anti-self defense camp believed that, pass or fail, Illinois’ concealed carry efforts would be the catalyst needed to spark a nationwide repeal of concealed carry laws.

So here we are in late March and the anti-CCW barrage is well underway at the Illinois Capitol. Gun-grabbing legislators are tripping all over themselves to introduce legislation to eliminate advantages concealed carry gives the citizen over violent muggers, murderers, robbers and rapists. Once again, the gun-hating left has made its expectations abundantly clear. The gun-haters expect citizens to learn to live with and accept criminal behavior rather than expect criminals to conform to society’s norms.

Here is a taste of just some of the anti-self defense legislation introduced during this session of the Illinois General Assembly.

SB2669 - introduced by Sen. Don Harmon, this bill could change the law and only permit persons to carry defensive firearms where and when signs are displayed specifically stating that concealed carry was allowed. Thus, Sen. Harmon would force you to remain defenseless against criminals unless you could find a location where Harmon’s special sign was posted. A similar bill (HB4779) was introduced in the House by Rep. Emanuel Welch.

SB3559 - introduced by Sen. Kwame Raoul, this bill would prohibit concealed carry permit holders from having more than one firearm or more than 10 rounds of ammunition on their person. Of course, nothing in Raoul’s proposal limits how many guns or how much ammunition criminals may carry. Raoul is not shy about his dislike of firearm owners and SB3559 indicates just how little he cares about the well being of the good people of Illinois.

SB3561 and 3572 - introduced by veteran gun grabber Sen. Dan Kotowski, each of these two bills would have the state step in and direct churches and other houses of worship to prohibit concealed firearms on their property. Kotowski enthusiasm for destroying the 2nd Amendment is now bleeding over to the 1st Amendment as well.

HB4319 - introduced by gun-hater Rep. Scott Drury, this bill would prohibit members of the VFW or American Legion from carrying concealed firearms in their own Posts. Eliminating the right to self defense is a great way to honor our vets, right?

HB4517 - introduced by anti-gun Rep. Kenneth Dunkin, this bill would prohibit concealed carry in ALL restaurants. In effect, Dunkin’s bill would let criminals declare open season on restaurant-goers.

Each of the above proposals would seriously diminish the effectiveness of concealed carry - and that’s something that you should take very personally. Let’s face it, we’re talking about the safety of you and your family. The more the antigunners whittle away at the scope of concealed carry, the more dangerous the world becomes for the rest of us.

The fact of the matter is, legislators who promote an anti-self defense agenda are turning you and your family into sitting ducks for violent thuggery. Guys like Kwame Raoul, Dan Kotowski and Scott Drury pose as much of a threat to your family’s security as does the guy hiding in the shadows with a bludgeon in his hand. In effect, anti-self defense legislators like Raoul, Kotowski and Drury become accessories to whatever crimes you and your family are forced to endure.

Self preservation requires swift and decisive action. If the good citizens of Illinois are to maintain even a moderate degree of safety and security, then these anti-self defense proposals need to be defeated before they ever get to the floor for debate. These are the things you need to do, NOW, to help maintain the safety and security of you and your family:

1. Call your State Senator and State Representative, TODAY, and politely tell them to vote against he above listed proposals and any other such anti-self defense legislation that comes down the pike. Tell your elected officials that you do not want the scope of concealed carry diminished, taxed or further regulated. Make it clear that you believe that you have a right to defend yourself and your family from harm using the most effective means known - the defensive firearm. If you do not know who your senator or representative is, then click here: http://www.elections.il.gov/districtlocator/districtofficialsearchbyaddress.aspx

2. Pass this alert along to all your friends and family and tell them to contact their elected officials as well. Remind your friends and family that there are politicians out there who really don’t care what happens to them.

3. Post this alert to any and all Internet bulletin boards or blogs to which you belong.

4. Help us, help you by making a generous legislative donation here.

Posted Wed Mar 26 20:03:43 CST 2014

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60 posted on 03/27/2014 8:23:09 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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