Posted on 03/24/2014 11:03:14 AM PDT by Nachum
Edited on 03/24/2014 3:41:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
While the NSA is busy justifying its spying of every American its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.
After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings in what was about to be a violent coup overthrowing Ukraine's president Yanukovich, "someone" has just leaked another phone conversation, this time between parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych and former PM and ideological leader of the Ukraine "revolution" Yulia Tymoshenko and most probable future president of West Ukraine, in which Tymoshenko is makes the following threats, "It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader", "I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands" although all her empty threats collapse in the last sentence of the phone conversation in which she says, regarding the Crimea annexation, that "we are going to take it to the Hague International Criminal Court." Good luck with that.
But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, "what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts"... to which she replies: "They must be killed with nuclear weapons."
Needless to say, that is not how you make Russian friends, or diffuse geopolitical tensions
Kind of interesting she speaks in Russian about exterminating 8 million Russians. Didn’t say it in Ukrainian, which she also speaks.
But she has those fake braids. All can be forgiven by those who don’t have any understanding of what is going on.
Poll in Germany re should Germany accept Russia now has Crimea: 55% yes, 43% no.
“Russia and the KGB have a history of fabricating stories in order to control events. And they do it extremely well.”
So does the Obama administration. Remember Benghazi?
How about Fast & Furious?
Exactly how does one target eight million individuals with nuclear weapons?
Where will the nuclear weapons come from, since Ukraine has none?
Exactly why should I not believe that this nonsense is poor Russian disinformation?
“post the title exactly as it appears”
In the past, if there is room, I have put in parentheses: (”title does not match content”)
Yep. Can do that if there is room.
Obama learned well from the champion fabricator,
I could only stand the first several minutes— must be something about the German sense of humor I’m missing :-)
Tymoshenko appears to have become unhinged since her recent imprisonment. She used to be smart and stable.
Here’s some of the people now running the Kiev regime:
Andriy Parubiy, the new secretary of Ukraine’s security council, was a co-founder of the Neo-Nazi Social-National Party of Ukraine (SNPU), otherwise known as Svoboda.
His deputy, Dmytro Yarosh, is the leader of a party called the Right Sector which, according to historian Timothy Stanley, “flies the old flag of the Ukrainian Nazi collaborators at its rallies.”
The Svoboda party has tapped into Nazi symbolism including the “wolf’s angel” rune, which resembles a swastika and was worn by members of the Waffen-SS, a panzer division that was declared a criminal organization at Nuremberg.
A report from Tel-Aviv University describes the Svoboda party as “an extremist, right-wing, nationalist organization which emphasizes its identification with the ideology of German National Socialism.”
What she shouts (before translation) is: “Blin!”. Literally, “blin” means “pancake”,
Hmm. I think I'll start using "pancake!" as an exclamation. And "pancaking".
Could be psyops pushed by Putin as a prelude for invasion of Ukraine.
Ukraine’s acting foreign minister, at The Hague.... has met with his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov. ....It is the first such encounter since the controversial annexation of Crimea. ....President Vladimir Putin agreed to the informal meeting
Nice Russian propaganda at work here.
Gets pretty thick here on FR with people taking sides...but there are no good guys in any of these events.... Just powerful groups and leaders, on both sides of the ocean, using whatever means available and willing to see their own desired end..... All nations do this who have a vested interest in toppling nation leaders.......and their allies assist them in pulling it off.
My mother (Irish) used the word “bugger” talking to me and it was in a kinda negative context -as if you were dabbling in mischief.
Never the British “bugger off”, though.
Tymoshenko appears to have become unhinged since her recent imprisonment. She used to be smart and stable.
Speaking of the unhinged, do you have a biography of the Vice Chairman of the Russian Duma handy?
Russia already is announcing plans to deport Ukrainians to Siberia, who’s the nazi?
It’s very simple- Russia invaded a country and is calling its victim “nazis”
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