Posted on 03/24/2014 11:03:14 AM PDT by Nachum
Edited on 03/24/2014 3:41:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
While the NSA is busy justifying its spying of every American its existence thanks to famous Moscow resident Edward Snowden, its Russian counterparts have been busy intercepting even more phone Ukrainian conversations.
After a month ago a leaked phone call between US assistant secretary of state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt confirmed that it was the US that was pulling the strings in what was about to be a violent coup overthrowing Ukraine's president Yanukovich, "someone" has just leaked another phone conversation, this time between parliamentarian Nestor Shufrych and former PM and ideological leader of the Ukraine "revolution" Yulia Tymoshenko and most probable future president of West Ukraine, in which Tymoshenko is makes the following threats, "It’s going too far! Bugger! We must grab arms and go whack those damn katsaps [a Ukrainian word used to refer to the Russians in a negative tone] together with their leader", "I’ll use all my connections, I’ll raise the whole world – as soon as I’m able to – in order to make sure.. Bugger!.. not even scorched earth won’t remain where Russia stands" although all her empty threats collapse in the last sentence of the phone conversation in which she says, regarding the Crimea annexation, that "we are going to take it to the Hague International Criminal Court." Good luck with that.
But the smoking gun, and where Putin once again shows just how masterful of a chess player he is, is the following statement by Tymoshenko, after asked, rhetorically, by her counterparty, "what should we do now with the 8 million Russians that stayed in Ukraine. They are outcasts"... to which she replies: "They must be killed with nuclear weapons."
Needless to say, that is not how you make Russian friends, or diffuse geopolitical tensions
Libya, Egypt, Syria, Ukraine. All chaotic, all ripe for fundamentalist takeovers. Russia sees the writing on the wall while we are lied to by govt media outlets.
She is a blond with braids and is a nazi.
so....when ordering pancakes in Russia I should be very careful?
be careful
Russia and the KGB have a history of fabricating stories in order to control events. And they do it extremely well.
I would not be surprised if this was confirmed. Look at the photos of her in unguarded moments. This is one bitter, crazy chick. Perhaps that traditional braid is wrapped a bit too tightly.
they didn’t have custody or any way to light them off.
Kirtland AFB has a storage facility for nukes, but Gov Martinez has no authority over these.
When you can’t trust the press who runs a protection gig for a sociopathic liar, your own National Security Agency, the elected officials in congress, your Obamatron slobbering neighbor, the mind can certainly wander to strange places, but it doesn’t mean it’s always the wrong place these days. Especially since the sociopathic liar in our White House is known to have consorted with other sociopaths who thought placing 25 million Americans in re-education camps and/or eliminating them completely. Removing 8 million Russians? The insanity there is thinking Putin is going to or would back down.
Ukraine had never “had nukes”. Those installed there, were Soviet Union’s a.k.a. Russia. And they took them back.
Following your logic it was Russia feeding the Nazi war machime during Molotov-Ribbentrop.
... and neither, if the US were to cease to exist, would the governor of Texas or Alaska.
So why, after the Soviet Union ceased to exist, the president of Russia or Belarus or Kazakhstan or some other constituent part of the Soviet Union and not the president of Ukraine, should, as a matter of right, get ownership of the nukes that were in Ukraine is not clear.
Anyway, this was all sorted out by a treaty, which Russia signed and in which it agreed to honor the territorial integrity of Ukraine.
well, I think that the Russians either lied, or there was an additional secret protocol in play.
These foreign entanglements sure are tangled.
Gee!!
Who remembers this:
“Either you are for me, or you are against me!”
1. Star Wars movie
2. ?
3. ?
4. ?
No money, no treasure, no American blood...
I believe that was star wars 3. Where the Jedi are all destroyed.
Heck, with the group man crush for Putin around here lately, this will probably make them put Putin 2016 bumper stickers on their cars.
“You expect people to believe this?”
James Bond: “Do you expect me to talk?!”
Goldfinger: “No mister Bond, I expect you to die!”
We have hitched ourselves to psycho horses. Need to unhitch.
Some, but not all of them, are neo-Nazi facsists. Some, but not all of them, are also psychopaths.
We need to keep our distance.
She has already admitted the call is genuine, except for the part about murdering 8 million Russians. She says that part was dubbed.
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