[Olog-hai]

Rights are absolute. If they can be “lost”, then they are really privileges; therefore rights cannot be lost except by becoming truly criminal.

[OneWingedShark]

Rights are absolute. If they can be “lost”, then they are really privileges;

Oh, I agree — and this is the reason that they push the ex-felon's disbarment of arms — it conditions people to think of the right as something that may be legitimately abridged by law.

therefore rights cannot be lost except by becoming truly criminal.

I disagree, for the most part. There are some people here who make assertions like prisoner-rape is part of their sentence, that they lose a right to security [or self defense] by virtue of being convicts.