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DOJ to Supreme Court: Killing Human Embryo in Womb is Not Abortion
Cybercast News Service ^ | March 23, 2014 - 9:46 PM | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 03/23/2014 8:19:43 PM PDT by Olog-hai

The U.S. Justice Department is telling the Supreme Court that killing a human embryo by preventing the embryo from implanting in his or her mother’s uterus is not an “abortion” and, thus, drugs that kill embryos this way are not “abortion-inducing” drugs.

On Tuesday, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in the case of Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby. The crux of the administration’s argument in this case is that when Christians form a corporation they give up the right to freely exercise their religion—n.b. live according to their Christian beliefs—in the way they run their business.

It is in the context of this case, that the administration is making its argument that killing an embryo seeking to implant in his or her mother’s womb is not an abortion.

The dispute involves a regulation that Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius issued under the Affordable Care Act. This regulation says that virtually all health insurance plans must cover, without any fees or co-pay, all FDA-approved “contraceptives.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; abortion; babykillers; doj; hobbylobby; liberalagenda; scotus; sebelius
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To: faithhopecharity

We’re being robbed to pay for this rot, more accurately. This is the chastisement-with-scorpions phase.


21 posted on 03/23/2014 9:19:50 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Former Fetus

Department of Jackasses.


22 posted on 03/23/2014 9:27:10 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Olog-hai

speaking personally, only, i think that in addition to the frustration and the attempted abrogation of our constitutional rights......and having to pay for all of it, i also find it disgusting
how they are treating the American people

but ... the people keep voting for more of the same...

go figure!? masochism? something akin to the infamous Jewish Suicide Syndrome — but a national American version of the disease? a mind-rotting virus?


23 posted on 03/23/2014 9:28:28 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: Olog-hai

That’s not a rational approach towards conception. Fertilization of an ovum is a far more reasonable line between “cell” and “developing human”.

By the time implantation would occur, a unique composite genome has already formed, and many cellular divisions have already taken place, effectively creating a new and unique organism. Quite frankly, that’s life.

That’s life far more complex than you’re going to see in any prokaryote. Implantation is merely a a phase of that organism’s life, one it may complete or not (such as gestation, infancy, childhood, college, etc.).

Any dividing line drawn significantly after conception is really unsupportable. Some dishonest or easily influenced individuals may point to the high rates of human miscarriage, and the significant number pregnancies that end without implantation successfully taking place, but that’s a truly illogical argument with no comparable basis in fact - the fact that a child may suffer from SIDS, or that historically the MAJORITY of children born never reached adulthood, does not imply that a unique individual person did not exist prior to leaving infancy or childhood.

The rate of miscarriage or failure to implant is utterly immaterial to the argument of whether or not life has begun. Just as the historical childhood mortality rate is immaterial to the argument of whether or not a child is a human being.


24 posted on 03/23/2014 9:29:21 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: exDemMom

Please see my post#24.


25 posted on 03/23/2014 9:30:07 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: Olog-hai
We are screwed either way.

If Hobby Lobby loses then businesses won't be able to opt out of whatever nonsense is foisted upon them by the government.

If Hobby Lobby wins then corporations will use this decision to justify bad behavior that has absolutely nothing to do with the decision, but that will be technically allowed based on strained readings of the decision.

The 14th Amendment has been invoked far more times to grant corporations the rights normally only allotted to citizens than by blacks to get the same rights as whites.

26 posted on 03/23/2014 9:36:28 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: TBP

I was thinking we could just call it murder. Short and to the point.


27 posted on 03/23/2014 9:48:52 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: Olog-hai
Murder would be the technical name and should be the legal name.

H.R.1091 - Life at Conception Act

28 posted on 03/23/2014 10:09:55 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: exDemMom
A person really only exists within a functional brain; without a living brain, there simply is no person.

Like my mother who has Alzheimer's.

29 posted on 03/23/2014 10:14:25 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“then how do muslims get exceptions for their religious beliefs?”

Because they are a death cult and liberals are pussies.


30 posted on 03/23/2014 10:19:53 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: jameslalor
Very well said. At the moment of conception a new being comes into existence with the characteristic of constantly replicating its own cells according to the coding of its DNA. It has unique DNA that, with the exception of identical twins, no other being has ever or will ever again have. Those are defining characteristics of a discrete living being. Its DNA is specifically human which categorically makes it a living human being.

The question of whether it has a spirit, a soul or a mind may not be possible to answer with science but science does answer, without equivocation, that it is an individual living human being from the moment of conception or at least very shortly after when the two half-strands of DNA combine.

31 posted on 03/23/2014 10:31:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Viennacon

Have I got this right? Christians who form a corporation lose their First Amendment rights.

Wouldn’t it then follow that, when a news organization forms a corporation, they give up their right to the First Amendment protections for the press?? The networks just might not buy into that particular idea.


32 posted on 03/23/2014 10:45:02 PM PDT by Bob
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To: thegrump
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Pro-Life Victory vs. "Render Unto Caesar" ...

Pro-Life Victory vs. "Render Unto Caesar" - (click)





IRS & Church Marriage vs. "Render Unto Caesar" ...

IRS & Church Marriage vs. "Render Unto Caesar" - (click)



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33 posted on 03/23/2014 11:47:23 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear; Bob; faithhopecharity
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Pro-Life Victory vs. "Render Unto Caesar" ...

Pro-Life Victory vs. "Render Unto Caesar" - (click)





IRS & Church Marriage vs. "Render Unto Caesar" ...

IRS & Church Marriage vs. "Render Unto Caesar" - (click)



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34 posted on 03/23/2014 11:49:57 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: SpaceBar

Maybe his utter foolishness is our friend here. We will see.


35 posted on 03/23/2014 11:50:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: faithhopecharity

It’s being so comfortably accepted, perhaps, because American apathy, borne of expecting nothing but lies and excuses from its government, had already reached the point where it would be accepted. So the Democrats learned that they could pitch to the gutter and it was accepted.

The weakest spot is primaries. Here is where a huge difference could be made. But despair reigns and couches are warmed instead of voting booths visited.


36 posted on 03/23/2014 11:56:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: TigersEye

The “ex-Dem” claim is getting more and more tenuous.


37 posted on 03/24/2014 12:07:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Bob

Rights are absolute. If they can be “lost”, then they are really privileges; therefore rights cannot be lost except by becoming truly criminal.


38 posted on 03/24/2014 12:09:39 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: SpaceBar

That’s the “rule of man” versus the rule of law. Anything can be made up by the ruler, and said ruler is above his own rules.


39 posted on 03/24/2014 12:10:29 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: EDINVA

Kelo was the day it died to me.

Holder’s DO Reparations is disgusting. The man is a sick disgusting human.


40 posted on 03/24/2014 1:16:48 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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