Posted on 03/16/2014 5:13:58 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
What evidence do you have in hiding that shows any indication whatsoever that a convention would do anything but play into the hands of those that would eliminate all of our rights?
No, you think they were wrong.
I want to keep the constitution they gave us; you don’t.
So you think the founding fathers deliberately put Article V in the constitution but for no apparent reason, eh?
Play your childish strawman game with someone that has the same straw filled head as you.
“... play your childish straw-man game with someone else...”
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I figure about as much from people like you.
You have no argument; you are all about the bluff and the bluster.
If you seriously believe there are 38 states in this Union that
would vote to accept a proposed amendment to the constitution
that would doom “whatever it is that you think they would doom”,
then you are far beyond the hope of the John Birch advocates,
or any of the state’s nullification advocates,
or any of the Article V Convention advocates,
or anything else, for that matter,
and you might as well just go bury your head in the sand.
I’ve had my eyes wide open for most of my life, Apparently you believe in dreams.
It’s your head that is in the sand.
So, what is your solution, or great and wise one?
Read comment at 32. If you won’t read Levins book then answer your phone. You are keeping Alex waiting
Don't know Ed Wolfe.
Research links on the Article V process and the Liberty Amendments:
Convention of States - Alabama Way to go Alabama! A good introduction.
'Convention of states' to rein in government? Another great summary explanation.
The Case for an Article V. Convention. Fantastic explanation of Article V convention to the Mass State Legislature.
I would recommend watching the above three videos first and then:
Convention of States Lots of information here.
A Summary of Mark Levin’s Proposed Amendments by Jacquerie
Chapter 1 of Mark Levin’s Book, The Liberty Amendments
Mark Levin, Constitution Article V, and the Liberty Amendments
Article V Project to Restore Liberty
Rep. Bill Taylor introduces a Convention of States
Mark Levin Article V, Liberty Amendments youtube video hub
Three hour video of C-Span interview with Mark Levin
Gaining Steam? Nearly 100 Lawmakers Descend on Mount Vernon to Talk Convention of States The beginning.
Convention to Propose Amendments to the United States Constitution
The Other Way to Amend the Constitution: The Article V Constitutional Convention Amendment Process
Friends of Article V Convention Links
Ulysses at the Mast: Democracy, Federalism, and the Sirens' Song of the Seventeenth Amendmentby Jay Bybee. Repeal the 17th!
Article V Convention: Path of Least Resistance By Robert Berry
The Final Constitutional Option
Article V Handbook - for State Legislators
State Legislators Article V Caucus State Legislators, Join up at this site!
Send this list of links to your State Representatives and Senators here: Contact your State Legislators.
Sample Letter to state Representatives regarding the Convention of States Project and also, Talking Points. Both from Here.
Excellent Article V Letter to a State Assemblyman by Jacquerie
Let’s all work together to get this going.
The Federal Government is broken. We owe it to The Founders and ourselves to attempt a rational Article V amendment process. If it doesn't work, or is hijacked, then fine, it's on to what we're all expecting anyway, revolution. It's your call America.
Thank you for your snide reply.
I have read the article and about another 50 just like it.
Yes it is controlled by the state legislatures. That would be the same legislatures that are elected by the people who elected Barack Obama twice. The same legislatures that pass wacky gun control laws and other outlandish liberal legislation.
Thank you for your concern but my original comments still apply.
Not knee-jerk at all.
Congress is infected with spineless cowards that care noting for this country.
Obama hates this country and is on a course to tear it apart.
He’s got to go.
NOW.
There is no room in your sand; your empty swelled up head takes up all the space there.
Congress is full of weaklings for sure, but impeachment won’t work just like it didn’t with Bubba. Loser’s poll numbers are in the 30’s now. Strike articles of impeachment they’ll shoot back up to 60% just like with Bubba. Congress will the respond to their constituents and will acquit him...just like Bubba.
We’d be much better off tying Loser’s hands with R majorities in both houses of Congress and legislate away all of his Ex. Orders.
I do agree, Loser has been the very, very worst if not the most criminal President we’ve ever had the misfortune of electing.
Quite right, but it is the Left that has everything to lose at an amendment convention.
We have an arbitrary, despotic government in which the prez determines the law. There are no restraints. A stroll through the Bill of Rights will show very few clauses remain in force. Leftist courts have rewritten the constitution such that it bears no resemblance to a government for a free people.
There is a burr under the saddle for the Left, and it is Article V. We have the power to restore republican freedom. Future generations will shake their heads in wonder if we don't take advantage of our framers' bequest.
Don't assume the states will send majority Leftist radical delegates. Over half of the states opposed Obamacare in court. All have to put up with p!ssant DC bureaucrats pushing them around.
As the Tea Party has demonstrated, there is more than a mere whiff of resistance in the air. There are pent up, patriotic frustrations that await release. The next assembly of states will be held in mid-June. Their press release may be the spark that launches freedom's restoration.
I enjoy your posts and have read the handbook this time out and several other articles but the process requires congress to act and it will ignore anything done by the states. first the petitions. ignored! no counting until they get to 34. the press won’t report anything about it. There could be 34 million. ignored. Also the communications template is already cast. The Media, socialists, libs, eGOP, even the Rand Paul and Fox News Bill O REally will call it a CON-CON. it is already labeled as such and the arguments go like this: “we know we have issues but we don’t believe this country needs to re-write the constitution. We in congress believe we can fix XXXXX”
Why prejudice such a question in order to bias the independent reader of my reply?
28 of the current 50 governors are Republicans. I didn’t bother to count the number of Republican-majority state legislatures there are. It is most likely that Republicans will pick up an even larger majority of state houses in the next election cycle. Any amendments must be ratified by a super-majority of the states.
Consider issues at the state level that could act as “proxies” for the rights that we all should hold precious. For example, notice how many states have objected ObamaCare by refusing to set up a state exchange. More to the point, consider how many states in recent years have expanded the rights to carry a concealed firearm. Notice what happened on Colorado when that state rammed through a restriction on firearms, the number of people who signed the recall petitions were greater than the number of votes the recalled state Senators had received in the general election.
Then there are state actions to outright nullification of federal firearms laws and NSA spying.
None of this is “in hiding”. It is in the news quite frequently. Moreover, in any ratification vote, each state gets one vote irrespective of the number of Electoral Votes it has. So, while Kalifornia is solidly liberal and has a lot of Electoral Votes, it cannot outvote Wyoming or Montana. All of this works to giving weight in any ratification vote to the conservative side.
Lastly, any ratification will be a few election cycles in the future, most liberal states in the northeast are losing population and thus as a result of the next census will lose more seats in the House of Representatives to the advantage of states like Texas.
On my part, and touching on your concerns, if the only Amendment that was proposed was to sharply limit federal spending by limiting governments ability to create near-infinite money and debt out of thin air, we would go a long way towards protecting our panoply of rights. Near-infinite money buys near-government and near-infinite bureaucracy. Cut the money and government must of necessity shrink too.
You obviously lack a clear understanding of an Article V convention.
It cannot be limited to one amendment, and once opened would be permanently open according to most competent constitutional scholars. (There is no clear process to adjourn such a convention)
The 17th Amendment removed Senators from their proper function and disempowered the states relative to Washington.
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