The Inside Story of How Oklahoma Beat the Constitutional Convention

The New American ^ | 16 March 2014 | Joe Wolverton, II, J.D.

[Repeal The 17th]

John Birch Society?

[C210N]

I only needed to read up until "con-con"...

[bigfootbob]

FYI

[Graybeard58]

Our Constitution is fine the way it is. Problems arise only when it’s ignored.

When the new congress is sworn in, Jan. 2015, the first order of busines should be to impeach the low life mongrel who is acting as POTUS.

[Howie66]

That Impeachment process should have been started a long time ago.

I’m praying that our Military stand in Honor of their Oath and go “Eqyptian” on Obama, ASAP.

[Amendment10]

This is a crucial victory in the struggle to protect the Constitution and the fundamental liberties it protects from the possible ravages that could result from a second constitutional convention, or, as its supporters call it, a "convention of states."

Since the product of a "convention of states" is not a ratified amendment to the Constitution, but a proposed amendment which the states can later choose to ignore, I don't buy the ravages aspect of a con-con. So can anybody clue me in on why people who should know better are saying such things?

For the record, although I would like to see the 16th & 17th Amendments repealed along with some new amendments added, before we amend the Constitution patriots need to elect patriots to Congress who will work to clean up all three branches of the corrupt federal government. Impeachments are long overdue.

[DaveinOK54]

I’m nooone to happy about this. Con-Con? Really? Nullification? Even worse.......won’t work.

I had a call back from (D)Rep. Sherrer, my rep, the morning of the vote in Committie, he was unsure when he called, but by the time we were finished he said he would vote for it and he did. I like to think it was the deciding vote. Anyway, when I talked to Rep Banz about why it was just limited to a Balanced Budget Amd., he expressed concern of all of this disinformation about a run away Con-Con, he was right.

It’s not dead, we might be able to resurect it next year, but we’re running out of time. (My state sen. had never heard of Art. V, she got a lot of info on it to say the least)

To sum up....`Just Dang’

[familyop]

I'll pass on wanting the 17th repealed. Local commies often propagandize themselves on political discussion boards as conservatives but are at least as bad as the federal commies.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
“2 American Fedn of State, County & Municipal Employees $60,949,129 [Democrat] 81% [Republican] 1%”

[John Valentine]

So can anybody clue me in on why people who should know better are saying such things?

People should know better but obviously they do not. These Oklahomans were hornswaggled. Hopefully they will learn the truth and reconsider.

[gusopol3]

Mark Levin makes a very convincing argument in favor. As in any constitutional amendment process, anything emerging would require ratification by 38 state legislatures. The upside is that it cuts the Washington politicians and their cronyism out of the process. So it restores power to the state legislatures and is the ultimate check on central government power.

[Postman]

The JBS ( I can’t bear to even spell its name)remains a group of loud, incompetent, obstructionist fools. They have a first grader’s understanding of the extreme danger this country is in and have no ideas to remedy the problems other than to attack those who would use the peaceful remedy provided by Article V of our Constitution.

[Repeal The 17th]

The John Birch Society is convinced that nullification is the way to go.
Their idea hasn’t gained any traction, so they attack
the Article V advocates out of spite and jealousy.

[Baynative]

We just went through a similar process in our county. The Washington state constitution set the workings for county government in place, but allowed for a "convention of freeholders" to be voted on by citizens. If passed the Freeholders would then write a new county charter that would be put to the voters for ratification.

Last year the democrats circulated petitions to authorize the county charter initiative for the ballot in the hopes that they could go waaaaay to the left with an environmental bill of rights guaranteeing that tree would have legal representation and fracking would be prohibited. Oddly enough, trees control the politics in this county that is 97% government and national forest land.

Well, the petitioners gathered enough votes and the issue hit the ballot along with the required number of freeholder candidates running for positions in the convention. As the election drew near it began to look as though there was growing support for common sense candidates and libertarians and the democrats whole control the county turned against their own initiative and defeated it.

The outcome was no surprise, but the show was fun to watch.

[editor-surveyor]

No, they blocked the shit.
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[montag813]

These Birchers are traitors. They might as well work for Valerie Jarrett.

[editor-surveyor]

Off your meds again, eh!
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[editor-surveyor]

>> “ Local commies often propagandize themselves on political discussion boards as conservatives but are at least as bad as the federal commies.” <<

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Amen!

That is the supply line for Federal commies!

[Amendment10]

These Oklahomans were hornswaggled.

Are OK lawmakers as constitutionally-impaired as the voters who elected them evidently are? Or do state lawmakers probably know better about con-con and created con-con gossip as dog-and-pony show to exploit low-information voters?

[John Valentine]

Apparently so. This is made obvious by their use of the dumbed-down and intentionally misleading term “con-con”. A dead giveaway disinformation by libs and lib fellow-travelers.