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To: goldstategop

Russia may have decided to just take the part of Ukraine it cares about and cut the rest lose totally. Russia’s leaders may see this as a hard choice that will pay off in the future by settling questions and disputes about borders and identity that have been unresolved since the USSR collapsed. This can make a lot sense when you think about it from their perspective. Russia may feel it cannot have large numbers of people who consider themselves Russians in countries on its borders in part because it will draw Russia into intrigue in these countries that it now realizes it can’t win often enough to justify the trouble. They may see gobbling up parts of Ukraine as cutting their losses.

If that’s the case, the way to head this off would have to involve serious concessions. Russia has already decided it can survive whatever sanctions might be coming if this is indeed their course of action. Escalation by those opposed may result in moves in Central Asia, as Russia feels it has less to lose.

We have to understand that world historical forces live in our own time as much as in others. The ideologies and even the personalities are flitting above the waves of those forces. Time won’t stop because Hillary or Obama or Kerry gives some lame speech.

These jokers couldn’t even write a bill to give Ukraine’s new government a measly one billion dollars without trying to sneak a measure in blowing a huge amount of the IMF’s emergency money. Shameful. And then McCain has the nerve to shill for this bill? Why not just submit a clean bill without pork stuffed in if this was so important?

Russia saves a cool $15 billion by unloading this Turkey onto us. So any damage we inflict on their economy has to be measured starting $15 billion in the hole.

If that bill pases, we’re in one billion. We need to keep track of how much this costs.

Oh and I’m not stupid. I understand that the IMF “reform” may be a cover for mobilizing resources to attack Russia financially. That needs to be discussed first because I do not trust these clowns to not blow up our economy in the process. More than it has already, I mean.


7 posted on 03/15/2014 1:21:01 AM PDT by Monmouth78
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To: Monmouth78

The question that should be asked is why is the US and EU so desperate to get their claws into Ukraine? It is an economic basket case and will have a negative impact on Europe economically. Has everyone forgotten Greece? The absorption of Eastern Europe is also hurting Europe economically.

Why is Obama and America’s left wing so anxious to go to was with Russia?


8 posted on 03/15/2014 2:08:37 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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