Posted on 03/03/2014 8:23:57 PM PST by This Just In
There’s some grumbling in Chicago as to why Farina was excluded.
What are you talking about? How do recent winners like ‘12 Years a Slave’, Argo, The Artist, The King’s Speech or The Hurt Locker fall into that category?
If you can’t “see” the underlying “messages” and the artificial emotions tied to “correct” concepts.....I can’t help you.
Take the Jimmy Carter (the Satanic “Apartheid State” guy) promotion in the Argo movie. Not so subtle.
Take the “King’s Speech” and the promotion of puerile “emotions” over actual “Reason” to understand the underlying emotions. Sure-—some Reason was used, but not without the elevation (climax) of profanity, by a King, no less.
I am also a person who never ever heard my father use a foul word in front of females, ever, and he lived to be 87,
You might think I am picky-—and I certainly am......but I’ve read about script writers, who were denied by producers, because of the lack of the profane/Satanic ideas included in their script.
It is very subtle in some movies (granted)....but it is always there, unless it is a Mel Gibson or a Kirk Cameron (who are reviled in Hollywood) or an ‘outcast” , Look how Gibson portrayed homosexuals in his Braveheart. Can’t do the Truth in Hollywood.
Like “Mr. Smith goes to Washington” even in “Hollywood” back in the day of Jimmy Stewart, it had to be “successful” by word of mouth because the elites hated it. (It showed Truth, which is VERY dangerous to Hollywood/eiltes). I saw the interview of the producer’s son who was not part of the cabal, who controlled Hollywood.
John Wayne had been interviewed about scripts which he hated-—and thought were absurd and stated so to the Producers—”Who would portray whole towns with men as being frightened and hiding for their life-—to depend on one person for “saving” the whole town (AGAINST 3 OUTLAWS-—LOL)
John Wayne argued that Americans (family men) (in the 50s) were not like that (cowards), and the men wouldn’t allow 3 men to terrorize a whole town. But perceptions and emotions and ideas are the purpose of Hollywood. And they have an endpoint.
Hollywood tried to destroy John Wayne, but it didn’t work. He said that the people believed they knew his character from all the movies and wouldn’t fall for the lies Hollywood was putting out about him.
It is all a part of “Dialectical Materialism” (Marxism)——to advance one way of “thinking” and it is normalizing a vulgar ignorant people and totalitarian State, albeit “happy” entertained slaves who believe in any irrational idea that is pumped into them, and a State that supplies constant stream of sex/drugs for the “happy”.
It is a culture of “White Noise” to distract and entertain and keep from learning the Truth/God and being truly Wise and living a profound Life——you “watch” others in dysfunctional situations, which inculcates false perceptions of the Truth and keeps from true education and interaction.
It is rare that the perceptions promote “Truth”. Research Edward Bernays and you will understand the power of Wundt and the “marketing” of ideas/pictures to the masses. It determines the correct “perception” and “emotions” of our children, especially those who are glued to the tube/videos/computers and never interact with their parents.
Argo didn’t promote Carter. Did you see it? They played an excerpt of a speech he gave about the incident at the end to give it a historical sheen.
Your objections to The King’s Speech are so trivial as to not even bother mentioning. Suffice it to say that the elevation of emotions over reason goes back centuries. The Frank Capra film you mentioned was actually held back by the Breen Office (Hollywood Censorship board) as ‘anti-American propaganda’ - showing corrupt government officials was controversial back then. Wayne worked steadily throughout his career and got an Oscar at the height of the counterculture so it’s safe to say there was no attempt to ruin him.
Of course, I totally disagree with you on ALL counts. You don’t do much research, do you?
Yes, I did watch Argo. http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/022213-645544-is-film-argo-just-an-attempt-at-reviving-carters-reputation.htm
I admit the King’s Speech was fairly good.....just the outburst which I thought was weak feminist Psychology, and I never think vulgarity is necessary in stories like that, but, I agree, it was hardly worth criticism. There are much worse examples.
I am talking about the underlying “agenda” in Hollywood——the “Dialectical Materialism” which can take “two steps backwards” but then 5 steps forward.
Hollywood is attempting to flip good and evil in our culture and to normalize absurd, irrational, evil ideology of slavery-—to sex, drugs or State.
As for the Duke-— Hollywood Marxists hated him. They hated his masculine, gun-toting, independent image.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9h0gen3oT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btvSE6tVHzQ
One article doesn’t a political agenda make. Carter was not a pArt of the Argo narrative. Most who saw the film did not go away thinking of him. As I said Wayne was honored late in his career and macho gun toting heroes have always been around. There is no overarching goal/plan in American movies...too many different people working from different perspectives. A lot of american films aren’t even made by Hollywood.
I drew a lot of the same conclusions as you regarding The King’s Speech, which we’ve seen on several occasions, Argo, and others.
Gore didn’t make the film - he was the subject. If the makers took him on stage with them it’s their call. Perhaps they gave him an award as the writer? Just who gets it for docs is a muddy rule.
Just be gracious and admit you were wrong. You said Al was not awarded an Oscar when in fact he was. As I stated previously, Hollywood is all about double standards.
Some junkies are more equal than others.
Apparently some on this thread believe that if you acted on television more than starred in films on the silver screen - than it doesn’t count.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_documentary_oscar
Notice in 2006 he is not listed. The fact that he went up on stage is beside the point. As for double standards, we were talking about the Memorial segment not honoring people who are not really involved with the film industry. It has no bearing on who is the subject of a given film. If Al Gore died he would also probably not be part of the Memorial segment.
You’re aren’t seriously comparing those two are you?
Wow. You are right there. Farina was a great character actor, period. Lots of movies and TV shows.
I saw him in a cigar lounge in NYC about three years ago. Tall guy. Didn’t look very happy. Came in alone, never lit up.
It isn’t beside the point. I stated that Al Gore was presented with an award. You stated that he did not receive an Oscar. You were wrong. The thread, and my over arching point was to highlight the double standard in Hollywood.
I am right about Argo. I and the rest of my party walked away knowing that they “wanted” us to “think” Jimmy Carter was a “good” nice, smart guy, and erase the Truth in the minds of children and make Americans and Hollywood into the big heros which is a sham (Lie)...... and perpetuate the warping and misinformation of history as much as Michael Moore does.
The actual reality is Jimmy Carter was stupid and inept and an idiot and Canada was the hero and the airport scene was a created hoax for “drama”.
I don’t care what Hollywood does—but when they promote lies, it is evil...and distortion of history is a lie, unless they rename it and state it is “fiction” when it deviates from the truth of the outcome.
The Leftists HAD to honor John Wayne-—and they did it in a backhanded way—only because the masses loved him and forced them to do it. They aren’t adversed to making money....they sell their souls for it.
You need to understand “Edward Bernays” and how he shaped Hollywood. They have historical youtubes on him and his life and the “marketing of ideas” which is all that these Hollywood guys do. All movies market an idea. Some are quite evil and destructive, esp. to children.
I will agree with you that there are outside influences that do produce movies, and good ones. Images are crucial in forming and normalizing ideology in children. Hollywood does not have total control...just great influence and almost total control. Since digital film, internet-—they are losing control, thank goodness.
I recently watched an evil Adam Sandler movie, “Grown-ups” which I forced my brother to watch. It was sickening. We both hated it from ALL perspectives. If you watch it from the perspective of a child-—as I usually do—since I raised five and worked in schools-—you can see the insidious ideology which they are trying to popularize and normalize in children—and they are toxic ideas that tear down the respect of all human beings, of motherhood, and reduce people to Godless stupid animals, with no dignity and respect. It promotes a Marxist Worldview that a Jeffrey Dahmer would have when he grew up. It is not like the “Three Stooges”—it is sexualized—having the mother “nursing” a five year old and “squirting” milk at people for “fun” and laughs. It is truly vile and evil concepts to instill in children.
Concepts given to children: watch this clip from such a “nice” movie.....I remember watching this and being VERY annoyed, since I had four boys whom i never wanted to have such a dangerous concept of putting a penis in one’s mouth. Funny how subtle Spielberg is at promoting the concept of sodomy to children even back then. The sodomy normalization is obvious now. When I grew up-—I and my brothers wouldn’t have any such unnatural “thought” unless abused which were weren’t.
(This was even before the media made “oral sex” a popular idea for little children with the Billy Clinton incident. Sexualization of children warps and corrupts their views on Realty and destroys morality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaWUaboCIrM
“Two Oscar Voters Admit Choosing ‘12 Years a Slave’ Without Actually Seeing It”
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/03/05/12-years-slave-votes-oscar
The Oscar’s are a joke. It’s Hollywood’s big Selfie.
I saw Argo with a bunch of people and no one walked out thinking what a great guy Carter was. It wasn’t part of the film’s effect. All drama based on actual events exaggerate and add events and situations. That’s the way drama works. Do you think those old Biopics of scientists and composers were historically accurate? Do you think Shakespeare’s History plays are accurate? (they aren’t). You could say that all Art markets an idea. Books, paintings. It’s a meaningless standard. That E.T. thing is something else. Sorry to break it to you but boys that age talk that way. Most of them do. It wasn’t promoting sodomy. I saw it as a child and didn’t walk out thinking about that line. That is a hilarious way to look at it though.
Sean Penn admitted he gives his ballot to his secretary. You get stuff like that with large scale awards like this. I
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