The Terms of Our Surrender (to gay marriage)

New York Times ^ | March 1, 2014 | Ross Douthat

[dsc]

“We need to roll up our sleeves and do the hard work ourselves.”

Well, then, what should we do?

[HiTech RedNeck]

Yes, and the deepest reality is God! Your “realism” is shallowism.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Well, certainly not call on God because that’s way too shallow! /DEEP SARC

[Some Fat Guy in L.A.]

I heard it preached this way: Congress can pass a law declaring that 2 + 2 = 5. The president can sign it into law. People can try to follow the law, and a majority can agree with it. It’s still wrong and utter nonsense.

[highball]

Then you keep wishing He’ll magically solve this problem for us.

I prefer to do the hard work He put for us on Earth.

[Lurking Libertarian]

First when we acquiesced to contraception being legalized, then when we acquiesced to “no fault” divorce and then we we slowly accepted and acquiesced to the normalization of premarital sex.

Christian America did not reluctantly "acquiesce" in any of these things; they actively embraced-- nay celebrated-- them.

Historical trivia question: who was the first governor to sign a no-fault divorce law? Answer: Ronald Reagan (not coincidentally, the only divorced President we ever had).

[HiTech RedNeck]

You will need to embrace Him in all His supernatural reality, or all your “hard work” will be totally in vain if not starkly counterproductive. You’ll only chase your tail.

[USAF80]

A Muslim photographer, florist, or baker will be left alone, why, because both the government and the activists are scared of them.

They should be scared. There are one billion Muslims in the world and they have the Borg mentality. If they started a homo jihad our issues would be solved in no time.

[dsc]

“certainly not call on God because that’s way too shallow”

Prayer is a given, but surely you’re not suggesting that we do nothing else.

[RichInOC]

You only surrender to somebody you trust to treat you honorably after you surrender. These people aren’t even treating us honorably during the war.

[highball]

"Prayer is a given, but surely you’re not suggesting that we do nothing else."

That seems to be exactly what he's suggesting. And it's insane.

We need prayer to fortify ourselves for the political battles we face. That doesn't make it a substitute for political strategy.

[HiTech RedNeck]

That seems to be exactly what you WISH I was saying.

Because you don’t want God to bend your ideas of a political plan.

[HiTech RedNeck]

In fact, you would especially detest God if He said get off that campaign stump and get on the evangelism stump!

[highball]

That’s absurd; I don’t “detest God” now and the very suggestion is offensive.

If insults are all you have to offer, I’ll thank you to leave me out of it.