Posted on 02/23/2014 12:29:40 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Television pictures of revolutions can make them seem like a spectator sport.
Having Vitali Klitschko, the world heavyweight boxing champion, playing a starring role in the events in Kiev reinforces that impression.
But the implosion of the Ukrainian state in the last 48 hours is a political earthquake.
Chaos in Kiev could set off a tsunami that will toss Western Europe from its moorings too.
It is a mistake to think we are watching from a safe distance.
Maybe Ukraine is as foreign to the British people today as it was when an obscure crisis on its southern coast in Queen Victorias reign became the Crimean War.
But not since the 1850s has this country come so close to colliding with Russia.
Ukraine sits on the fault line dividing Eastern Europe between pro-Western and pro-Russian views. Her people are split over attitudes to the old imperial capital, Moscow.
That divide is now opening up as pro-Russian districts in the East such as Kharkov and Crimea refuse to accept the overthrow of President Viktor Yanukovych celebrated in Kiev.
Civil war would be a tragedy for Ukraines people. But what makes the crisis so dangerous is the international dimension.
Since the collapse of Communism in 1991, the US and its European allies have seen keeping Ukraine independent of Russia as a key result of victory in the Cold War.
For Russians, losing Ukraine was a huge blow....
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
The irony and contradictions of this conflict threaten to engulf history books
Former communist entity and superpower commie big brother
Now arguably less leftist than the euroweenies trying to usurp Russia’s in house neighbor
Western media...progressives or neocons all....not much difference on foreign policy really
Laud these Euromaidans as folk heroes
But if one looks who they really are and who’s behind them....Soros....US state dept.....western leftists
And that they are seriously armed
You realize once again this is no “spring” and our media and govt are idiots
Russia offers sweetheart deal but we push for Euro Union crap and who’s more lefty
Putin or Euro Union
Now the Ukraine will divide but they can’t split the pipeline so I see full scale war coming and Brussels will clamor for treating Russians like Serbs
But Russians are a lot bigger and I don’t blame them for wanting Ukraine to stay in the fold
This will likely end poorly and our govt.... and media will have helped screw it up
One calls human rights ...the other nation building
They are enamored with the partially victorious rebels as freedom fighters or....lord is the west poorly led
The danger here, IMHO, is if Putin decided to send Russian troops into the Ukraine, under the guise of sending them south to “protect” the big Russian naval base..
People have no idea. We haven’t been in this much danger of the balloon going up since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Its comin’......
“People have no idea. We havent been in this much danger of the balloon going up since the Cuban Missile Crisis.”
But this time we have a jerk for a leader.
“Who thought that the assassination of a relatively minor Hapsburg would start a major world war?”
yes, that’s always the thing, isn’t it?
I’ve never made a serious study of WWI, but I’ve read enough about it to conclude that it is unlikely I’ll ever understand it.
And it was the end, the very end of the world as it had been (with minor erruptions like the American and French revolutions) for hundreds if not thousands of years.
In a way we may still be living in its upheaval.
So, yes, while I don’t think it’s likely that what’s happening in Ukraine will affect us, I wouldn’t rule it out.
People have no idea. We havent been in this much danger of the balloon going up since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
But this time we have a jerk for a leader.
Do you really think Obammy is calling the shots?
“Do you really think Obammy is calling the shots?”
Not if it’s not on his teleprompter.
Every corrupt government especially ours should pay attention
You would be wrong. I have a very good friend who is Russian & lives near Moscow. A large portion of the population want things back the way they were before the wall fell & ripped apart their country. But they realize that Putin is their best option. Spend some time on Russian blogs (via Google translate) & you will see the truth.
Of course, no one thought about siding w Ukraine until Russia started banning Homosexual activity....all this “save Ukraine” is just the Gay Rights folks looking for another way to whine about Russia “not being gay”.
You saw none of these articles on Ukraine until after Russia passed its law...and you have a lot of leftist folks on here siding w liberal media, EU, Soros, Obama, on Ukraine
It IS chilling when we consider that the people of Ukraine want closer ties with the EU and Nuland is saying .... the EU. Is she perhaps voicing support for Putin?
You get what’s going on in Ukraine...
Scary is a lot of folks on here support the liberals overthrowing a lawfully elected govt....and a lot of folks supporting the US liberal media version of everything.
Or...voicing George Soros frustration with the EU not moving fast enough...
Obama supports the EU/Soros/Liberal Globalist in Ukraine
Pretty much describes the Obama Administration from top to bottom.
I get your point. Nuland could be frustrated that the EU and Ukraine are not yet joined, for lack of a better word. It’s going to take me a while to fully understand this situation.
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