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Then, actual smart watches were actually developed before even the PC became popular, which all came before the current smartphones and tablets.

Uh, Not exactly, the first watch with any kind of programable memory came out in 1983, certainly post Personal Computer era... Popularity was already a given with the Apple II and Commodore computers coming in 1976, the IBM-PC in 1982. Let's not revise history for your agenda. Watches capable of holding names, addresses, and phone numbers, and a couple of reminders, are certainly NOT the smart watches that are under discussion here, which is what was being discussed in circa 1980s.

Apple, has been following the leaders for a while, and while they may come up with some very nice products, they’re always trailing the competition.

iPads? iPhone? Both the number 1 selling products in the world in their product categories? Always trailing? Not by a long shot. Where are the better selling products? Not the Platform... product. Give an example. Feature lists are not enough. They have to work.

Notice the log list of smart watches in development? Apple is not on the list. Apple is now following even the “unknown” or unheard-of companies

Have you noticed that Apple has never announced they are developing a watch??? Nope. They have not. How can they be on the list of watches in development if they have not made such a development? Apple NEVER makes such announcements until they are ready to ship.

Uh, Not exactly, the first watch with any kind of programable memory came out in 1983, certainly post Personal Computer era...

So, does a smartwatch have to be "programmable memory"? The smart part pertains to being able to do more than regular watches. I had a "smart" watch some 30 years ago, when I could do calculations on my "watch" (and yeah, for calculations, memory would be required).

Popularity was already a given with the Apple II and Commodore computers coming in 1976, the IBM-PC in 1982.

Well, dude, I'm not into the fanaticism displayed by those that feel offended by somebody even hinting at something that might take some glory from your preferred company or platform. There are other more important things in life to worry about.

Let's not revise history for your agenda.

So, what would my agenda be? If you know of one that I wasn't aware that I had, please let me know.

Watches capable of holding names, addresses, and phone numbers, and a couple of reminders, are certainly NOT the smart watches that are under discussion here, which is what was being discussed in circa 1980s.

Yet, even smartphones of today are mostly used to do the things that you describe in your list of functions of those "not so smart" watches. Smartwatches and smartphones can do a lot of things, but for the most part, most people don't use the majority of the features or functions or apps designed for them and into them.

Apple, has been following the leaders for a while, and while they may come up with some very nice products, they’re always trailing the competition.

That is a fact, and that is also being talked about around the industry, and even Apple is feeling the heat.

iPads? iPhone? Both the number 1 selling products in the world in their product categories?

Actually, you would be wrong on all counts!

iPads are no longer the best selling tablets. And iPhones are trailing Samsung smartphones by a bid margin. That the iPad and iPhones are very profitable, doesn't mean that they're the best selling. And, iPhones are getting close to being overtaken in Europe, by Windows phones. The luster is wearing off, quickly.

Always trailing?

Yep!!! Trailing! Trailing in "innovations", and Apple is getting worried about how the industry is looking at them. The fact remains that, Apple hasn't really had any real innovations for a very long time, and when they put out the iPhone, it was just the equivalent of a "better mouse trap" in the smartphone arena.

Not by a long shot.

I know it must be hard to take, but YES!, your favorite company has been trailing for a long time in innovative ideas, and now, they're also trailing in market-share.

Where are the better selling products? Not the Platform... product. Give an example. Feature lists are not enough. They have to work.

Samsung has been the leading smartphone maker for a while now, and the Android tablets are beginning to take off, and soon, the iThings will be trailing the competition in everything, including features and variety and applications and just about everything else. Try to keep up with the industry.

Notice the log list of smart watches in development? Apple is not on the list. Apple is now following even the “unknown” or unheard-of companies

The list I provided a link to, doesn't show Apple on it. And that is what I said. Go back and read my previous post. That Apple is not on the list, is indicative of a company that is not leading, and it really hasn't led for ages.

Have you noticed that Apple has never announced they are developing a watch??? Nope. They have not. How can they be on the list of watches in development if they have not made such a development? Apple NEVER makes such announcements until they are ready to ship.

You must be new to the way the technology industry works, especially regarding how Apple works or doesn't work to get products "introduced or even mentioned".

Apple relies on rumors, which, according to many people in the know in the industry, are "purposeful" rumors. Start people talking, and wondering what Apple is up to, and then, whammy!!!, Apple releases a the product rumored about or something close to it. That's the way the iPhone rumors started, and it was the same with the iPads, and the same kind of rumors are being floated right now about a 5 inch iPhone. BTW, a 5 inch iPhone would be the same Apple following the leaders, after those leaders started putting out large screen smartphones a couple years ago.

Sorry you don't like hearing or reading about the reality, but, Apple is not a leader in innovation. I will give them credit for putting out good quality stuff, and neat looking stuff, but technology-wise, Apple trails a whole bunch of others in the industry.