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Twelve hours to get a Z-pack? Thanks, Ă˜bamacare, for nothing.
6 January AD 2013 | Self

Posted on 01/06/2014 6:16:12 PM PST by lightman

South-central Pennsylvania has been clobbered by a nasty cold, flu, or combination thereof for all of this brief new year. So much so that the state is listed as "widespread" on the flu map published by the Weather Channel.

I get that.

What I don't get is why it took my adult son nearly twelve hours to obtain a Z-pack. He did the responsible thing by calling his primary physician (a truly unmercenary practitioner, who works solo and sees many of the poor who others shun) early this morning...around 10 AM.

The overworked physicians office--I did say this flu thing was widespread--did not have time to call the pharmacy until nearly 6 PM. That's eight hours. The pharmacy was running nearly three hours behind on filling new scrips--again, because of the widespread flu.

So now we are 11 hours past the initial call to the PCP, with another hour to go, according to the information from the pharmacy.

Now you may be wondering, how is this the fault of Øbamacare?

Simple.

Øbamacare does NOTHING to address the medical billing system.

The medical billing system (to any insurance, be it Medicare, Medicaid, or private insurance) provides NO financial incentive to physicians for issuing prescriptions or renewals by phone, nor for phone consultations, nor for email communication.

To borrow a phrase from the legal profession, the only "billable hours" are for office visits and hospital visits. Period.

No incentive for delivering health care through any technology.

And certainly no incentive for doing so in a timely manner.

The market has failed.

And so has Øbummercare.


TOPICS: Government; US: Pennsylvania; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 0homocare; antibioticresistance; azithromycin; bacterialpneumonia; flu; flushots; healthcare; levofloxacin; obamacare; prescription; tamiflu; zithro; zpac; zpack
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To: Smokin' Joe

You’re right about clans. Take it from someone who grew up without an extended family. It’s easier for an “outsider” to see.

Clans will be essential for future survival. They’re the only defense against an all-powerful State.


81 posted on 01/06/2014 11:03:37 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Smokin' Joe; stanne
I'm not sure where America got suckered into thinking of each generation as a distinct and separate entity, except that it damages family continuity where the concept is accepted, and leaves people open to the same scams, generation after generation. Interaction between the (Great) grandparents and the newest group of kids provides the wisdom of the elders on tap for the youngest, and all in between. All benefit. In the end, it is up to all individuals how they handle their own family affairs, but it is foolish to deride those who led the way or who just need some leadership.

Excellent point. Thanks. People who want to destroy history and people's ability to learn from it are behind this also.

82 posted on 01/06/2014 11:07:22 PM PST by thecodont
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To: carriage_hill

That’s the issue. Those of us who have relationships with doctors who know our history and will do what is necessary to keep us well (our family doctor calls us after a visit to make sure we are recovering) are considered revolting by the zero administration. He would love to destroy that doctor/patient relationship in the name of “equality” (aka providing EVERYONE with poor care). That’s the fundamental transformation he was talking about.


83 posted on 01/06/2014 11:11:42 PM PST by Reddy (bho stinks)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yep


84 posted on 01/06/2014 11:15:28 PM PST by stanne
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To: lightman

Ummm… hate to break this to you, but A) Zpak will do nothing for a cold/flu except increase resistant bacteria for you and all others when you really need an antibiotic. B) Your doctor is terrible if he calls in antibiotics for cold/flu symptoms without a physical exam. He would have been better off if the MD never called it in and he just sucked it up and (gasp) took care of himself for a few days. It will pass.


85 posted on 01/07/2014 4:59:23 AM PST by usmom
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To: ArmstedFragg

I agree that they have probably thought long and hard to eliminate loopholes, but inevitably, loopholes will be found.
The intermediary, providing cash services to Medicare patients could locate offshore, thus avoiding some of the legal hazards of the law. The intermediary could promote their service to Medicare patients as a way to see the best doctors without delay. The doctor might still take on the Medicare patient at the usual Medicare rate, but the intermediary would pay the doctor a fee to see the patient quickly.
As far group practices are concerned, I believe that as long as the doctors bill under their own number, the doctor can decide, as an individual, whether they take Medicare/Medicaid or not. The opt out of Medicare applies to the individual doctor, not the group. I would expect that more of these hybrid practices to become more common. The non-Medicare doctor would purposely be the person responsible for urgent visits or some other important service. So if the Medicare or crap-care patient needs to get in and see someone right away, they will have to see the non-contracted physician, or else, they will have to go to the ER.


86 posted on 01/07/2014 5:48:30 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: lightman

In hospital, reaction to the antibiotic, took 8 hrs to get the 1 pill, and needed 2. Did not see the 2nd until the next morning. This was Oct.

It is only going to get worse.

Seniors take heed, there are TWO flu shots, one is a super dose that is being given to seniors vs younger people, theory is you are more at risk. What you are at risk for is that the super dose has more side effects! Mine last year landed me in the ER.

23 seniors died after receiving this years flu shot sold by pharmacies

http://www.sott.net/article/266501-23-seniors-died-after-receiving-this-years-flu-shot-sold-by-pharmacies

As you can see in the screen shot above, taken from the CVS website, senior citizens over the age of 65 are being targeted to get the “high-dose” flu vaccine.

Because in the United States vaccines enjoy complete immunity from lawsuits in the market place. If you are injured or die from a vaccine, you or your family cannot sue the manufacturer of the vaccine. This law enacted by Congress, was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011.


87 posted on 01/07/2014 6:08:23 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: caver

Yep, that’s exactly what I was going to post -

a lot of people will die directly as a consequence of implementing this monstrosity of socialized healthcare.

And I believe that’s one of the desired effects of the legislation.

‘bammers is all about “gettin’ YT”, and I think he believes that the majority of people that currently have insurance are 1) white and 2) have it too good.


88 posted on 01/07/2014 6:12:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Jane Long

Think “fish tank” and you’ll have your source of stockpile antibiotics...

I was going to post a link, but I don’t want this source of ab’s to be shut down.


89 posted on 01/07/2014 6:14:49 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: GailA
It is only going to get worse.

If anyone wants predictions about Obamacare, this covers them all - It will only get worse.

90 posted on 01/07/2014 6:16:05 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: lightman

Least substantive critique of Obamacare I have yet seen, mainly because this has absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare.


91 posted on 01/07/2014 6:24:11 AM PST by dmz
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To: lightman

My doctor can send a prescription to the pharmacy via the computer. Takes seconds.


92 posted on 01/07/2014 6:43:20 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: lightman

I got my zpac and a 21 day supply of cortisone in 20 minutes yesterday in Conyngham PA. I’m sure once my company drops our health insurance in the future I will probably drop dead of bronchitis.


93 posted on 01/07/2014 6:46:08 AM PST by angcat
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To: caver
I might wake up dead tomorrow....

Errr... no, you won't.

94 posted on 01/07/2014 7:54:19 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: dmz

agreed. Aside from whether he should have gotten the Rx, this is common in pharmacies with “just in time” supplies. I routinely wait a day for them to get a drig in because they have a small inventory and a central supply and pills have to be sent out. Mothing to do with obamacare at all. And one can always pay out of pocket and tend to reimbursement later.

And antibiotics are of no help with flu.


95 posted on 01/07/2014 8:03:33 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: marygam

“He needs Tamaflu not Z-Pack. I was diagnosed with Flu at Thanksgiving. Had a nose swab test. Doc gave me a script for Z-Pack but told me to wait an hour before I filled it. He would let me know if I had flu. I did. He called in Tamaflu for me. 10 pills with my insurance cost $115. Best money I have ever spent to make me feel better. After 1st pill, I started to come back to life. (I was feeling like a kicked dog)”

You have a very good and intelligent doctor.

He practices good medicine and is conservative but ready to drop the Z Pack bomb if necessary.


96 posted on 01/07/2014 8:08:29 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7/365! Obamaganda will fail 24/7/365!)
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To: Lurker

Correct. An antibiotic is totally inappropriate for this ailment. Z-Packs must be the most abused prescription medication, and are a contributing factor to these drug-resistant superbugs that are starting to spread.


97 posted on 01/07/2014 8:08:33 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Drago

Thanks for posting this excellent reality:

Oseltamivir (Tamiflu) or zanamivir (Relenza) for flu/colds (antivirals)...antibiotics are for bacteria infections. http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/flu-guide/flu-treatment-antibiotics-or-not

We are about out of effective antibiotics due to misuse/overuse/resistance: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/09/cdc-amr-rpt1/";


98 posted on 01/07/2014 8:12:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7/365! Obamaganda will fail 24/7/365!)
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