Posted on 12/09/2013 3:47:13 PM PST by neverdem
New Yorkers gauge registration and confiscation of firearms in the aftermath of Gov. Andrew M. Cuomos landmark gun control law, the Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act of 2013.
The next relevant deadline is April 16, 2014 the date the people are supposed to have their long arms registered, said Assemblyman William R. Nojay (R. Pittsford).
The registration system is in place and firearm owners can register today, he said.
Low compliance rates will put the governor in an interesting position especially in an election year, said Nojay. I think registration rates are going to be less than 10 percent.
County clerks, district attorneys, county sheriffs and local law enforcement do not want to enforce the S.A.F.E. Act which is now the governors law, he said. They regard it as having nothing to do with law enforcement, it will not prevent crime, it will not prevent tragedy, it is a law of pure politics and they dont want to have anything to do with it.
Cuomo is telling people he will enforce the law, he said. This governor walks into every room looking for a fight and if he cant find one hell start one.
This is a constitutional crisis in the making, he said. The question is: Will the governor start pounding the table to force them to be the enforcer.
Cuomo is up for re-election in 2014, said Nojay. State-wide opinion of Cuomo relative to the S.A.F.E. act will determine how aggressive he becomes about using the state police to enforce the law.
Joseph A. D’Amico, superintendent of the New York State Police since 2011, is not a trooper himself and is in his position to be the governors enforcer, he said. That creates tensions within the states police department.
Nojay said D’Amico is a problem.
We receive lots of reports of deep, bitter resentment against the superintendent, said the attorney and radio talk show host.
DAmico is not respected and not liked, he said. He is regarded as a political hack rather than a law enforcement professional.
I dont think Cuomo will confiscate firearms as long as we stay vigilant and vocal, said Assemblyman Dr. Stephen M. Katz (R. – Mohegan Lake).
Cuomo who has aspirations to be elected president in 2016 already knows the S.A.F.E. Act has hurt his chances, he said. His absolutely irresponsible behavior regarding the S.A.F.E. Act has him ridiculed around the country.
Coming into the governors re-election campaign next year, Katz said the fact that the GOP has yet to come-up with a viable candidate is one problem; another issue is the lack of gun owner representation at the voting booth. Twenty-percent of sportsman and hunters did not go out and vote in the last gubernatorial election.
It is incumbent upon supporters of the Second Amendment to vote and get people out to vote, he said. Because otherwise we will be overwhelmed by the residents of New York City, and we all know how they are going to vote.
Katz said there are provisions in the S.A.F.E. Act that authorize unfair protections for ambiguous groups. For example, he said the law enhances the penalty of killing a first responder to a sentence of life in jail without parole. The law does not define first responders and the term is too broad.
Another example of inequitable provisions is the amendment to the S.A.F.E. Act that carved-out an exception for retired police officers, he said. Why should it be that way? Why are we as citizens prevented from defending ourselves in the same way a retired police officer can?
The S.A.F.E. Act is a poorly-written piece of legislation by a governor who is a bully and a legislature who are cowards, he said. The law is 50 percent benevolence and 50 percent incompetence which is what we see from the Cuomo administration more than anything else.
The New York City Police Department issued a directive to commence confiscation of firearms, said Thomas H. King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association. NYSRPA is the states largest and the nations oldest firearms advocacy organization.
The NYPD have been collecting records on gun owners ever since Raymond Walter “Ray” Kelly was appointed commissioner in 2002, he said. The recent confiscation directive comes directly from One Police Plaza which Kelly operates.
NYSRP initiated two lawsuits this year; one in New York City that questions whether the citys pistol licensing procedures violate the Second Amendment; and one in U.S. District Court, Western District of New York that asserts violations against the passage and enforcement of the S.A.F.E. Act which is pending before Judge William M. Skretny.
It is difficult to be successful in any lawsuit in New York City because of Home Rule, said King who is a National Rifle Association board member. For the past 20-years New York City lawmakers have had the legislative power to write their own laws to make existing law more restrictive, as long as it does not contravene state law.
In the case of the S.A.F.E. Act, he said the city council reduced the ammunition capacity from a minimum of seven-rounds to five-rounds. Nothing can be done in court to change this until the S.A.F.E. Act is overturned.
The citys restriction will have untold ramifications, said King. There are a number of antique guns, for example, the Winchester level-action rifles would be illegal unless modified and ruined in value or sold out-of-state.
King said downstate voters are not committed to gun rights.
New York City who holds the preponderance of the electorate, is doing their best to write all the laws.
Who gives a rat’s a** how New York City voters vote?
How does ANY of this affect the Second Amendment?
When does a nations of laws become a nation of grandstanding demagogues? (Answer: when the people are too stupid to understand the law, or to morally deficient to care).
HEEHEEHEE.
Stupid New Jorkers. Can hear them now, “Gun registration is just COMMON SENSE.”
“Only you tin foil hat types believe that REGISTRATION LEADS TO CONFISCATION!”
“Just how backwards and stupid are you?”
Stupid is as stupid does. WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT help out so-called “friends” who are caught up in this.
Its your tree Charlie S., you’re sitting in it.
Hate to be so mean, but tough love is just that.
No way in hell would I ever register any of my weapons.
Reason number 316 to leave NY forever. My sympathies to FReepers having to endure this.
Come to South Carolina and enjoy your weapons as much as you want. Lower cost of living, lower taxes and better weather too.
This is precisely why areas of states want to secede and start their own states. You have one giant liberal hellhole enclave dictating their wants and needs to the rest of the state. Not only that, but that same liberal hellhole is dragging down the rest of the state economically. You can bet if NYC was sawed off from the rest of NY state, that area would allow fracking and cut their taxes to attract businesses. Ditto for Detroit and MI, Los Angeles and CA, and Chicago and IL.
What do you bet that they'll consult the illegal Federal database on background checks to find out who owns weapons?
Any fool who registers their firearms deserved to have them confiscated like in NYC.
I think that dumb S O B has painted himself into a corner.
I want him to force the issue because this will end his short career.
Wait til they try to register Mohawk guns on the reservation. Those are guaranteed by State and federal treaty.
Registration?
Confiscation?
Them`s shootin` words!
Come and take it !
You just have no clue do you.
You sir, are a prick.
You wish ill will on tens of thousands of good conservative well armed Fellow Americans because they live in a state that is dominated by a large liberal city.
And you being from Colorado should know how that is.
Illinois would be happy as can be if Chicago seceded. Hell, it should secede all the way out into Lake Michigan. It can be an island unto itself (which it is already, though not surrounded by water).
When they come for the guns be sure to be polite and give them the ammunition first.
Will Cuomo also confiscate his bodyguards’ guns?
Here is reality.
Law only matters to those who can enforce it. NYC voted for this, let them enforce it.
We used to be a nation of laws. That has ended. We are heading for an interesting place in history.
Bill of Rights?
We don’t need no steenking Bill of Rights!
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