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Army Eyes New Standards for Women in Combat
Military.com ^ | November 27, 2013 | Matthew Cox

Posted on 12/09/2013 12:08:31 PM PST by QT3.14

The U.S. Army general in charge of training recently wrote about the service's examination of gender neutral standards to open the infantry and other combat-arms jobs to female soldiers.

The piece by Gen. Robert Cone, commander of Training and Doctrine Command, appears in the November issue of Army Magazine, the same month three female Marines made history by graduating from Marine infantry training.

Last January, former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered all services to open combat-arms roles to women that so far have been reserved for men.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: army; bhodod; combat; equality; military; militarywomen; usarmy; war; womenincombat
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To: QT3.14

They can draft women, and use them in office and non-combat roles. But they have no place anywhere near the front lines.


21 posted on 12/09/2013 12:35:39 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: ZULU

“Political correctness is driving this society INSANE.”

I think rather that this society’s insanity has driven it to political correctness. It’s just a symptom.


22 posted on 12/09/2013 12:37:07 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: QT3.14

The Russians tried an all-woman division in the Great War. Someone here who has recently examined that history might want to describe what happened. I will summarize by saying the meeting between young women and front-line combat was tragic.


23 posted on 12/09/2013 12:38:39 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: 2harddrive

Our adversaries consider all of this hilarious and entertaining.


24 posted on 12/09/2013 12:39:06 PM PST by Brownie63
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To: driftdiver

Yes it has. But to see the numbers side by side it’s incredible. I mean, they aren’t even comparable, but I know this comes as no surprise to you.


25 posted on 12/09/2013 12:41:34 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I was Air Force. I actually gained 20 lbs in basic training.


26 posted on 12/09/2013 12:42:35 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: QT3.14

27 posted on 12/09/2013 12:45:18 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: driftdiver

Really? That’s amazing. My guy went from 6’3”, 220 to 195 in nine weeks of basic and then dropped another fifteen in AIT. Best shape of his life but when he went off base in civvies for the first time he about fell out of them.

But he maxed his situps so he doesn’t really mind.


28 posted on 12/09/2013 12:46:13 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: QT3.14

So I guess the putting out the campfire with no equipment test is 86ed...


29 posted on 12/09/2013 12:46:53 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Yeah i was extremely active before going in. Once in I only ran 1 1/2 miles 3 times a week and they worked up to that.

The standards have always been lower. Heck I was in Cheyenne Mountain and they started giving us a bike test. They measured heart rate to determine fitness. The women even had a lower standard in that.


30 posted on 12/09/2013 12:49:20 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: QT3.14

1) Charging handles on M4 must be modified so it won’t break fingernails.
2) Boot’s must be color coordinated with fatigues such as not to clash.
3) Undergarments must not chafe the more sensitive parts.
4) Bra’s must be non-flammable.


31 posted on 12/09/2013 12:52:19 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

I amazed at the difference that womyn don’t have to sign up for the draft to get the gubbamint bennies but men still do.

Equality my ass.


32 posted on 12/09/2013 12:52:26 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: Gen.Blather
I don’t understand. Women are obviously fit for combat. You see them in Hollywood movies KO’ing a man 100 pounds heavier with a right cross to the jaw. You see them firing machine guns and killing dozens of guys in all sorts of action shots.

TV and Hollywood are right.

White men are nothing but big boobed, bed wetting helpless piles of couch fat. In fact, without their attractive intelligent brave wives or their college professor African American neighbors to burp them, they'd just die causing even more burden to all.

33 posted on 12/09/2013 12:55:14 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: QT3.14

Take a look at police videos of cops having to fight and wrestle with those they are trying to arrest. If male and female cops are present, watch the males jump right in to the fight while the females flitter around the edges, trying to grab feet, or do something productive. Virtually every cop video is the same in this respect. I feel for the male cop saddled with a female partner, he is on his own in a fight but better to worship political correctness than reality. In real combat, this is a disaster waiting to happen.


34 posted on 12/09/2013 12:58:17 PM PST by armydawg505
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To: QT3.14
This has nothing to do with military effectiveness and everything to do with social engineering and the destruction of Western civilization.

If our military and government were infiltrated and captured by a hostile enemy would it behave any differently than it does today?

35 posted on 12/09/2013 1:00:18 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: QT3.14
Two things

1) If women get to volunteer for combat duty, will the men get the same choice?

2) The PC military brass want to "crack down" on sexual assault in the service. How will this not increase incidents of sexual assault when you're putting men & women into high pressure compact environments?

36 posted on 12/09/2013 1:04:25 PM PST by Pietro
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To: driftdiver

For the record, here they are, at least for the Army:

Males (Basic training, ages 17-21) - 35 pushups, 47 situps, 16:36 2-mile run

Females (Basic training, ages 17-21) - 13 pushups, 47 situps, 19:42 2-mile run

Males (Advanced training, ages 17-21) - 42 pushups, 53 situps, 15:54 2-mile run

Females (Advanced training, ages 17-21) - 19 pushups, 53 situps, 18:54 2-mile run


37 posted on 12/09/2013 1:05:44 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: bleedblue
Women are equal to men in combat situations, so it’s O.K. for an all women marine corp. Right?

I asked that of people for many years,"What percentage of the Marine Corp should be female?"

Every single person scoffed at a figure of 100%, which reminded me of that old joke about "we have established what you are, now we are just haggling price."

If it can't be 100%, then we all know the truth of this whole issue.

38 posted on 12/09/2013 1:05:51 PM PST by ansel12 ( Ben Bradley-JFK-- told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: dragnet2
White men are nothing but big boobed, bed wetting helpless piles of couch fat.

Hey! I don't wet my bed!

39 posted on 12/09/2013 1:06:40 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: QT3.14

Same PT standards as men. If they can do the work, then I’d be more in favor of it.

Until then. No, sir.


40 posted on 12/09/2013 1:13:49 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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