Posted on 11/28/2013 9:22:24 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
President Obama’s Affordable Care Act is practically dead. Meanwhile, the old system it was meant to replace is dead. Thus, Americans face a long and bitter struggle over what kind of health care system they will have.
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BS! The old system isn’t dead at all - in fact it’s the only thing that is working. Who is this dolt?
Get the government out and free enterprise snaps back immediately.
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Obammycare is meant to drive us to single payer.
TORT REFORM would have solved most of the problems.
Demo’s TRIAL LAWYERS screwed the best health care system in the world. Clowns like former demo great ruined it for the rest of us.
The free market is always ready to work if government just gets out of the way. The free market is the world's best program against poverty and is the absolute alternative to Obamacare and socialism. But it is an alternative that requires LESS government not more, which is probably why you hear so few articulating it. We seem to be in an age where people want more and more government, seemingly not understanding that more government by definition equals less individual freedom.
Maybe, but who's going to trust the bastards to do anything right, after tens of millions suffer real hurt and even death, because of their failed plan?
By the time Obamcare is killed there won’t be anything left of the private market.
I meant to add JOHN EDWARDS to my post.
By the time Obamcare is killed there won’t be anything left of the private market.
BINGO!
Yes, they haven’t played their hand very well it may (hopefully) blow up in their faces.
The official name for ObamaCare should have been, The Affordable Scorched Earth Act. At least it would have been more accurate.
How about a "health care system" that does not involve the federal government?
And why is it that always get this crap about this "system" or that "system" only when the government wants to stick is inept nose into it?
So, we have a "banking system," a "health care system'" a "transportation system," every one of which the federal regulators think is their province in which to do as they will.
And it's the reason we don't have a "breakfast cereal system," or a "book store system," or any other branch of commerce that has not yet come entirely under their busybody scrutiny. Yet.
But don't worry, their goal is to regulate EVERY "system" right down to the "restaurant system".
With 80 to 100 Million Americans being told that their employer health plans (and other health plans) are CANCELLED — that definitely sounds like the death of the old system,
There are multiple goals with obamacare.
1. To control citizens via healthcare.
2. To kill off elderly white people (boomers) via deathcare panels under the guise of financial cost control. Oprah confirmed it last week.
3. To get every citizen to fund abortion and ru-486 for all women. Government is banned from direct funding, so they made insurance mandatory, then required all plans to cover abortion/ru486, thus directly forcing citizens to pay for abortions/ru486 through their plans.
4. Advancing socialism.
5. Advancing government dependency in everyone’s lives.
6. Forcing Christians to violate their religious beliefs and set precedents in law that it is legal for government to do this to people.
7. Forcing Christians out of family and private businesses if they do not provide abortion/ru486 coverage to their employees, under the false idea that when a person starts a business they forfeit their first amendment religious rights, something never ever before argued in any court.
8. Population reduction/population control.
9. Revenge against political enemies/getting rid of witnesses/loose ends. Oops he died on the table. Oops, we can’t give him the care that could save him because his quality of life score and his societal importance score are too low.
10. Driving doctors with consciences and/or who don’t want to deal with getting the shaft from government, out of practice. Thereby making hcare rationing for euthanasia easier because lack of doctors, lack of resources, etc.
11. Destroying r&d for new techniques, new tools, new drugs. Won’t be covered, experimental, cost too much...
all ofthese are goals of obamacare, all working together for various ends, some overlapping.
The real purpose of Obamacare:
You can call me a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist, or you can call me whatever you like. I’m going to tell you why I belie.. no, why I know what Obamacare is about.
As an I.T. analyst, I have done work for some serious gov’t interests. Mostly in high finance, I took a particular shine to infrastructure utilities.
I worked for the “power grid” at the turn of the century. During this time I witnessed some of the most frightening things in my life. Much of it, I’m not allowed to talk about. A lot of it - You already know. Case in point: the United States electrical grid is in SERIOUS disrepair.
I asked the big-wigs about this, and we spoke frankly (As well, I did some digging around). This country was built by hand. My grandfather helped to build highways that today - with all of our technology, machinery and desire can NOT repair. Our grandfathers performed feats that we can’t even up-keep - despite having more than twice their population.
I worked with executives from the oil industry. They describe the foundations of Oil: a guy with a pick axe. “Flashforward” and pumps are designed and built, work crews are assigned, new techniques form. It turns out that that same guy who swung the pick-axe had to design and build all of that machinery and procedure. The guy swinging the pick axe didn’t just contact petroleum engineers for the position: He had to invent the techniques to discover the oil, get the oil, transport the oil, and sell the oil. That all happened in a matter of a year or two upon actually getting the end of his pickaxe wet.
Today, we simply don’t have this ability. We’re lost. All of this tech and we have no clue how to even get a highway repaired with it. Twice the population, less than half of the drive. I pushed on with those executives:
“Why are there these approved contracts, but no one is doing the work ?” The answer scared the hell out of me. “These contracts are being held”. They won’t tell me who is holding them.
But let me return to Obamacare, and I’ll infuse it with what I know about infrastructure contracts: The government borrows money (as credit) from all over the world. You don’t simply get those loans because the president is a nice guy. You get these loans the same way we all do: Collateral.
Those mega-millions infrastructure contracts were being held as collateral. And Obamacare exists to squeeze income from every american so it can borrow against it. Because the US is out of money, and out of assets to hold in collateral.
Why do you think all those federal parks and memorials were not only “closed” but “guarded” with paid guards during the shutdown ? Simple.
We didn’t own them.
What was it that brought back the lien ? Agreement on Obamacare. suddenly, the gates open. The furloughed workers get backpay. We kick the can down the road some more.
But you see, when we risked the postponement of Obamacare, our credit went to hell. But with the passage of it, we are holding it as an asset on a balance sheet. After that government start-up, a lot of contracts were go again. The infrastructure is still toast - I knew about that since 1996 when I almost watched the East Coast shut down (Yeah, no one knows about that one) and today power all across the NE is flickering. (Have you New Englanders noticed this over the past few weeks?)
Correlate Obamacare milestones to markets - and pay particular attention to Bitcoin and Litecoin (The gold and silver equivalents in the virtual, online currency markets). Watch what happened to them during the past few months. They are trading at percentages that are approaching the dollar. This is that Zinga exchange that I was SCREAMING about just a year ago. These markets will tell you all you need to know about the modern era of market vectors (I find a problem with people that use Gold and Silver for this purpose: Gold and Silver ARE STABLE. They do NOT appreciate or depreciate. They ONLY depreciate and appreciate when you measure their value in modern Fiat currency. When gold goes down, it is NOT gold that’s going down - its the dollar that goes up.)
I seriously don’t believe that the Democrats, Communists, Elites or Obama’s gang WANT single-payer healthcare. Single payer is a known quantity. Obamacare is dangling a HUGE carrot in front of the Fed and IMF because all of the numbers associated with it make Single-payer models look silly. Listen, Single payer model will still extract money from the debt-enslaved US populace; but Obamacare stands to extract MORE and unlike the service provider portion of Single-payer (Which the global community knows very well) the provider portion of Obamacare is completely unknown (!) That means pie-in-the-sky speculation based on totally unknown landscapes.
I really don’t think those who are playing this game WANT us on single-payer.
They KNOW it will, which is why Lord King Obama keeps pushing the implementation dates back and granting waivers to his favored minions.
It's not going to help. Tens of millions of people are going to suffer real pain, loss, and even death, before the donks wise up and pull the plug on Obamacare.
That's going to do damage to the Democrat party that will last a generation or two. Socialism as we've known it in this country may never recover.
BS! The old system isn’t dead at all - in fact it’s the only thing that is working. Who is this dolt?
Agreed! And worse the whole bunch of beltway microcephalics came up with a 100% insured population plan that by every study will INCREASE the total uninsured by as much as 10% at full implementation.
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