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To: Las Vegas Ron; CodeToad; Cboldt
Vatelle used the French. Even "native" would be a translation. If I recall a precise translation of Vatelle correctly, it was "the natural are the indigenous." I think that is correct. Forgive my memory, if I'm not remembering correctly the passage in question.

Here is an interesting piece from Jefferson writing about the commonwealth (Virginia, I assume) in 1779:

and all infants wheresoever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth, or who migrate hither, their father, if living, or otherwise their mother becoming a citizen, or who migrate hither without father or mother, shall be deemed citizens of this commonwealth,

Interesting look at Jefferson's thinking on the subject about a decade before the Constitution.

277 posted on 10/29/2013 4:29:55 PM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
shall be deemed citizens of this commonwealth,

Citizen yes, NBC?

There is a reason Citizen and NBC are differentiated on the Constitution, I wish it was more clear.

I wish the 2nd Amendment only just stated "the right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed" too.

What the Founders thought was a clear meaning of words, semantics, would not change was a mistake.

Other than that, I trust in their wisdom explicitly!

285 posted on 10/29/2013 4:36:28 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: xzins
So called "Native Americans" (Indians, for the most part) were distinguished from the political class of "citizens," so much so that Native Americans born on US soil were not considered citizens of the US.

One more remark, following your blockquote. Citizenship tended to follow that of the father, at the time the Constitution was drafted.

288 posted on 10/29/2013 4:41:25 PM PDT by Cboldt
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