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To: SeekAndFind

“In Chile, a major study shows the nation’s private retirement accounts provide workers pensions worth 87% of their salaries, 73% of that from profits on savings.”

Culturally this is impossible in the US; we have a whole swath of our population that won’t work and/or save. In the end the ants will still have to feed the grasshoppers.


2 posted on 09/27/2013 10:05:17 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (The talking heads have admitted is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
In the end the ants will still have to feed the grasshoppers.

Not this ant. I intend to pull the legs off the grasshoppers one at a time.

4 posted on 09/27/2013 10:08:13 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: kearnyirish2
We have something similar to the Chilean Model in Galveston, Texas.

Several thousand employees of Galveston County, Texas were allowed to opt out of the Social Security program in the early 1980s, and have their money placed in a private retirement plan instead. While employees who earned $50,000 per year would have collected $1,302 per month in Social Security benefits, the private plan paid them $6,843 per month :


5 posted on 09/27/2013 10:09:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: kearnyirish2

It won’t work in the US because politicians will see a new pot of money and take it.


6 posted on 09/27/2013 10:11:41 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: kearnyirish2

There are three problems with us going to it.

1. Yeah, there’s around twenty million Americans who depend on social security entirely, and basically have a check for $700 a month, which just gets them to a half-way marginal lifestyle. The fed guys don’t want to admit it, but these folks are screwed completely, and are in survival status with that marginal check.

2. You can’t find a single senator who will go into a forum and debate the merit of staying with social security or going to a private pension. None of them are bright enough or competent enough to debate it...either way. They depend on lobbyists to guide their votes.

3. Finally, you really need to think long-haul if you go to a private pension. That means you, the private guy, accept one recession every eight years, and plan to just live with it. Most folks aren’t that capable, if you ask me.

I’ve enjoyed the IRA deal, and the gov’t TSP deal. In fifteen years....I’ve grown zero to $160,000. No, I didn’t go ultra risk...I just simply played better odds only. I think any guy, with some decent understanding, can do as good a job as some Wall Street joker.


10 posted on 09/27/2013 10:23:49 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: kearnyirish2
Can't never could. Sounds like you gave up before even trying to fight.

/johnny

14 posted on 09/27/2013 10:39:20 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: kearnyirish2

This is exactly how a pension savings plan is supposed to work.

It doesn’t work this way here because wall street, investment advisors and such are all feeding at the trough of our savings and hard work.

401Ks suck.


20 posted on 09/27/2013 12:13:56 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: kearnyirish2

That can change quickly. Europe had the same problem, then America was born.


26 posted on 10/06/2013 6:41:14 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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