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We'll be uploading our entire MINDS to computers by 2045....
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 9/18/13 | By VICTORIA WOOLLASTON

Posted on 09/18/2013 5:15:51 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda

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To: GraceG
You think so?

I mean if we were all downloaded into a Computer together we would essentially be one person.

All of thoughts and memories tangled together, I would be you, you would be me, I'd know everything about you and what you went through and visa versa, wouldn't we loose oursleves?

61 posted on 09/18/2013 8:16:51 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Eaker

Was going to use this kind of punch card first...

But it had too many bits..

62 posted on 09/18/2013 8:18:04 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: KC_Lion

You think so?

I mean if we were all downloaded into a Computer together we would essentially be one person.

All of thoughts and memories tangled together, I would be you, you would be me, I’d know everything about you and what you went through and visa versa, wouldn’t we loose oursleves?

You can virtualize spaces between the simulations running in memory.

So no worries about having personalities bump into one another... Unless a blue screen happens...


63 posted on 09/18/2013 8:19:14 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG
Or someone drags KC's Personality and puts it into Grace's Folder

I don't know Grace Trans-humanism is scary and sounds alot like what the Reapers do in Mass Effect. :/

64 posted on 09/18/2013 8:22:34 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

TRS Model 3 was smarter than Obammy... It had dual 5 1/4” floppies and no hard drive.


65 posted on 09/18/2013 8:27:28 PM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: RC one

Pure. Unequivocal. Speculation. We will find out after the first people try it. I will not be a volunteer, but should it be a success with no ill effects, I would give it serious consideration.


66 posted on 09/18/2013 8:33:02 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: MortMan

The boat has really been missed on this. Logic says that the idea is stupid. Just think it through a little. If you can load your mind into a machine, then you can load it into ten machines or a thousand. Which one then is you? None of them of course, when your brain is dead your are dead.

I’m not saying mankind given enough time won’t be able to find the tree of life, but it is forbidden fruit now.

What man should be able to do is to keep his body alive and healthy and interact with others through remote control. We won’t feel like we are living in a machine but that will be what it will be.

God has figured out how to do it. If we follow Him then we will be able to do the same thing. I realize that our bodies can be exactly recreated through DNA but I don’t know how our memories can be revived after death.

Definitely a lot of cool stuff to contemplate but it is all just a dream exercise.


67 posted on 09/18/2013 8:38:51 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

It’s hard to predict anything, especially the future.

— Yogi Berra


68 posted on 09/18/2013 8:41:54 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

people do realize that in such a case it is no longer “you” in there, right?


69 posted on 09/18/2013 8:43:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: MortMan
TRS Model 3 was smarter than Obammy... It had dual 5 1/4” floppies and no hard drive.

I know my TRS80 II was smarter. God I hated that acoustical modem I used with it to connect to the university's computer. But it still beat waiting in line to get to the Digital VAX VMS card terminals.

70 posted on 09/18/2013 10:36:05 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: MortMan
TRS Model 3 was smarter than Obammy... It had dual 5 1/4” floppies and no hard drive.

Crap, a TRS-80 Model I with the old 500 baud cassette drive would be smarter.
71 posted on 09/18/2013 10:43:00 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Wayne Green - W2NSD - Silent Key - Rest In Peace)
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To: RC one
Yeah, that is the $64,000 question, what about the soul? I don't know what to think but I think the soul would be connected to the mind until "it is time to go" so to speak. I've heard some people who have "astral walked" and had out of body experiences (I've had a few "out of body experiences" myself) say the soul is tied to the body/mind, they call it "the silver cord." I would have to assume the soul would "follow" the mind into the computer when the body dies unless "it is time." Maybe that explains ghosts as well. It's like if we ever had the ability to beam people like they do in Star Trek, the soul follows the mind/body. I know this is deep and perhaps I could be wrong partially or all the way on this uploading minds bit, but I guess it is possible.

I do think that science and religion (or metaphysics) do converge at some point, where I don't know and maybe God keeps this away from us until He wants to reveal it. Still there are lots of people who experience such things so there is some smoke and possibly fire.

Still, I would not want to be a guinea pig for this, I could be wrong. B-) I am skeptical on uploading minds but I do believe that it is theoretical to keep regenerating the body when we reach that level of technology.
72 posted on 09/18/2013 10:52:20 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Wayne Green - W2NSD - Silent Key - Rest In Peace)
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To: OSHA

More like a new 22 yo wakes up with 35 years of printed memories, skills and experiences.

You wake up with an anesthetic hangover and find yourself wondering who this punk is who thinks he knows everything.

Then they hand you the bill.


73 posted on 09/18/2013 11:01:46 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: Eaker

Forget the Etch a Sketch. It can do cursive.


74 posted on 09/19/2013 6:35:09 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

British biologist Rupert Sheldrake has long advocated his case that memory and mental functions do not occur within brain matter but are transduced from neurons to an ether-like storage medium that underlies all matter, possibly the Zero Point Energy Field described by quantum mechanics, also known as the Dirac Sea.

If this energy field is a storage medium, then there is a potential that the content of our mind, our entire life history, could be downloaded at some point, making for a form of immortality. But rather than being download onto robotic computer chips, a better likelihood would be to download into an artificially grown ripped, buff and hung body...lol! Seriously, Sheldrake’s ideas are supported by his experiments and bear looking into.


75 posted on 09/19/2013 10:17:47 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui

Have you ever read, damn I forget who it was, but he said something to the effect that if we didn’t have memory time and space would be non-existent because how could you prove it much less be aware of it? Everything would be in the now and you wouldn’t be able to differentiate change. For example looking at the ticking seconds on a clock it would always be in the same position because you wouldn’t remember where it was before. So time and space were an illusion, damn I wish I saved that, it was really mind blowing I read it a long time ago, but I was like daamn that is so right. We base everything on memory so how do we know that memory isn’t messed with somehow? How do we know we are aging? Going forward? Like light passes through our eyes upside down but our brain makes it right side up. How do we know time goes in any direction? Maybe a second ago I was 90 years old now I’m 50 and next second I’m 10.


76 posted on 09/19/2013 12:04:46 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Haven’t read the book you mention. Maybe that’s where the screen writer of “Memento” got his ideas. Our memory gets messed with all the time by even earlier memories and the interpretive frameworks they originally helped to form, so, even tho not as extreme as the examples of no memory you cite, there are plenty of distortions to contend with. We try to overcome said distortions with logic but that is only partially successful. Look at the evils in the world around you, they are the result of poor or distorted memory, just like the blessings in the world around you are the result of good, relatively undistorted memory.

The point is that we can abstract experience into a recording media and then re-abstract it when we recall a memory. This process of abstraction onto an inner viewing screen is the fun part. It can be extremely accurate as in the case of photographic memory, and it can be the stuff of delusion and hallucination.

>>Have you ever read, damn I forget who it was, but he said something to the effect that if we didn’t have memory time and space would be non-existent because how could you prove it much less be aware of it? Everything would be in the now and you wouldn’t be able to differentiate change. For example looking at the ticking seconds on a clock it would always be in the same position because you wouldn’t remember where it was before. So time and space were an illusion, damn I wish I saved that, it was really mind blowing I read it a long time ago, but I was like daamn that is so right. We base everything on memory so how do we know that memory isn’t messed with somehow? How do we know we are aging? Going forward? Like light passes through our eyes upside down but our brain makes it right side up. How do we know time goes in any direction? Maybe a second ago I was 90 years old now I’m 50 and next second I’m 10.


77 posted on 09/20/2013 11:55:06 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

If he is right, he will be a genius and a visionary.

If he is wrong, no one will remember.


78 posted on 09/20/2013 12:08:03 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Have they made one smarter than Obama yet?


79 posted on 09/20/2013 12:44:10 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (Was Ted Cruz born by c-section? If so, he's not a 'natural born' citizen.)
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To: tnlibertarian
Have they made one smarter than Obama yet?

way too many...one is about right.

80 posted on 09/20/2013 12:49:12 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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