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Matt Drudge Tweets! “Why Would Anyone Vote Republican”?

Posted on 09/03/2013 10:13:59 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

People are tired of the Republican-Democrat alliance

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: drudge; establishment; gop; syria
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To: Deb

Duh. Of course, “they want it to go away”. Are you an idiot?
The Left always uses these social issues to paint the Republicans as haters and intolerant while they convince younger voters it’s about “fairness”.

Why don’t you give us your brilliant ideas on how to fight against the entire popular culture, Democrat media machine and liars. This should be good.


It’s simple really. Go on offense instead of constantly playing defense. Ask the uncomfortable questions of the gaystapo. If they are saying marriage isn’t one man and one woman it is incumbent on them to define what it is. The Dems are totally let off the hook RE plural marriage, incest, etc. We all know this is the opening shot in the marriage wars. Lots more disgusting stuff on the horizon if we let them get away with this.

The reality is the beltway GOP doesn’t care about social issues. They happily surrender because their big donors don’t care and THEY PERSONALLY DON’T CARE. Why is that so hard?


161 posted on 09/03/2013 1:46:12 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: svcw

Vote Sarah or Cruz IMO.


162 posted on 09/03/2013 1:48:12 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Owl558
But as conservatives point out to them time and time again, the other 1/2 of libertarian ideology (+ the party) embraces some of the most un-conservitive destructive social policies that conservastives believe it is possible to take ... You guys get to call yourself whatever you want, right, but are you really even “libertarian”?

So you are the arbiter of what libertarianism is? The basic principle of libertarianism is inherently domestic: property rights, and citizen A does not have the right to tell citizen B what they can or cannot do unless citizen B is taking or harming someone else's property. You are assigning a particular foreign policy on libertarianism, when it is not really part of libertarianism. I consider a policy of strong defense and general non-interference to be both libertarian and conservative. I also consider a strict immigration policy, that is rigorously enforced, to be very much libertarian. You may disagree, but no-one is really the unquestioned arbiter of such things.

As far as social policy is concerned, all of this is in a sense hypothetical. If we hadn't had the assault on traditional values and religious institutions, our society would be capable of handling freedom. But the effect of a long war on these values and institutions has left a society prone to decay. Here is where political philosophy has to be tempered by practical considerations. While I am a libertarian conservative, and therefore oppose drug laws philosophically, removing drug laws would have a net negative effect, because society can no longer handle that type of freedom. Maybe if we can somehow get back to a point where the vast majority of people were trained in how to be civilized, then we can revisit the issue. But until then, such discussions are moot. Of all of the forces assaulting the concept of personal liberty, this is the most trivial, anyway.
163 posted on 09/03/2013 1:49:35 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: lodi90
Some care. Some don't. To some, it's a HUGE issue and others are in Congress to fight taxes.

NO ONE WILL AGREE WITH YOUR ONE ISSUE EVERY TIME.

But the Democrats will DISAGREE with you EVERY TIME.

Thanks for proving you have no answers.

164 posted on 09/03/2013 1:55:30 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: JimRed
I'll buy that when seizing my property in the form of taxes and using it to feed and house those who have drugged (or drunk, or refused to work) themselves into unemployable oblivion is forbidden by law and the law is enforced.

So your solution is to put more of them in jail where you will be paying somewhere between $30,000 to $60,000 a year for each of them? And I'm sure the government isn't going to feed, clothe and shelter those peoples' kids for free, either while the parents are locked up. And when they get out (I'm assuming you aren't going to insist on just executing them all on arrest) there is zero chance that they will ever be able to be a net gain on society with a criminal record.

I'm not trying to be obnoxious about this, but are you sure your policy is financially better? Seems like you want to spend more just really drive the point home that government isn't big and intrusive enough.

165 posted on 09/03/2013 2:41:33 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Deb; listenhillary
Deb says: Who's an "Authoritarian"? Who wants "government controlling people"? Give me a name.

Mitt Romney, Deb. Or does the fact that he's registered in the Republican Party mean that HIS kind of authoritarian nationalized health care, global warming "save the planet" environtal tyranny, gay "rights" that punish free people for making the moral choice to peacefully, civilly reject open homosexuality in their businesses, schools, military, etc., is ONLY authoritarian when it's promoted by someone registered in the Democrat party?

166 posted on 09/03/2013 3:14:03 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: jjsheridan5

“As far as social policy is concerned, all of this is in a sense hypothetical.”

See my #1 below. You are performing true to form. Abortions are not “hypothetical”.

“Every time a conservative calls this out, libertarians on this site either pretend that the social stuff is invisible (downplay it), scold conservatives that they really don’t understand libertarian ideology, or become “cafeteria Catholics” and tell us how we must pick and choose our issues.


167 posted on 09/03/2013 3:19:39 PM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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To: Owl558

I support free markets, which are the American tradition - not the post 1913 income tax/Federal Reserve scheme, which is a monetary cartel and abdication of Congress’ monetary duties as described in Article I Section 8.

On foreign policy, the libertarian view is the traditional view. Until the days of the Progressive Teddy Roosevelt, America minded its own business - we were a prosperous and free nation. From 1898 onwards, America became imperial, invading over 100 nations in that time. The support of empire necessitated a destruction of individual liberties, an avalanche of tax and regulatory burdens, and finally, undisguised Fascism. So no, I do not and will not support being world police.

It is not the job of the US federal government to meddle in every mess anywhere on the planet. Its duties are strictly limited by the political agreement which binds us together as a nation - the Constitution - and are described in the part of that document referenced above.

The definition of libertarian which you are describing isn’t correct. That description more properly fits with “progressives”, and while a handful (there really aren’t many) may fancy themselves libertarian, they are nothing of the sort. It’s not the government’s mandate to be involved in any of those social issues at all. It has no lawful role in them. If the States choose otherwise that is their right to do so, as individual states.


168 posted on 09/03/2013 3:29:31 PM PDT by thoughtomator 2.0
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To: Bigtigermike
It's still the party of Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the Bushes.

Maybe it's more honest to carry on in that vein than to pretend to be opposed to foreign adventures (or amnesty for illegals).

169 posted on 09/03/2013 3:32:02 PM PDT by x
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To: Owl558

You obviously cannot read with any degree of accuracy, so I will spell this out even more clearly for the reading impaired. I never said that abortions were “hypothetical”. I said that political philosophy, in certain circumstances, was hypothetical. If you cannot understand the difference, I pity you.

In addition, on a separate issue, I never once mentioned abortion. But since you will only hear what you expect to hear, explaining further is pointless. It is people like you, incapable of rational discourse, which give conservatism a bad name. Good day.


170 posted on 09/03/2013 6:16:45 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: JennysCool
It's America versus Washington.

Better yet

171 posted on 09/03/2013 7:22:36 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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To: Orangedog
So your solution is to put more of them in jail where you will be paying somewhere between $30,000 to $60,000 a year for each of them?

No, I prefer Sheriff Joe's system. Desert tents, bologna sandwiches, and workdays serving the public good. Chain gangs and P-farms, too, like the old south. As for their kids, we used to have a thing called charity that took care of the needy. We still would if government had not inserted itself into that role. But forced charity is simply robbery renamed.

Executing dealers would be very effective, but since it would get too many libs in an uproar, see my profile for an alternate proposal.

172 posted on 09/04/2013 6:13:48 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
Yeah, I suppose just minding our own business and quit paying the welfare checks would be too easy. It just doesn't count if heads aren't being cracked and people aren't being told how to run their lives.

Something I've noticed about what passes itself off as "conservatism" lately is that they have no desire to just cut welfare and food stamps. And why should they? It's their perfect excuse for meddling in the personal lives of the entire US population and gives them what has in the past been an easy out when called on their hypocritical bulls**t about being for small government.

173 posted on 09/04/2013 6:34:16 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Viennacon

I am afraid Obama has pulled too much power with blackmail. It is worse then you think.


174 posted on 09/04/2013 6:40:54 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: GraceG
I am a Libertarian. Yes, I support drug legalization, because the War on Drugs is an absolute failure. Just an excuse to seize property. The Drug “War” has given us: No Knock Raids, And almost complete dismantling of the 4th amendment, Property Seizure even if you are found innocent, Inability to carry cash above a certain amounts, Child Services seizing kids because the parents are suspected to be drug users even when they are not, A complete destruction of property rights and 5th amendment, Trampling on the states, etc etc..... The sooner it ends the better in terms of individual liberty.

Just Kidding Grace.

You are 100% Right on! I couldn't have said it any better.

As a Fellow Libertarian I say the government Doesn't Know what is best for us and shouldn't be involved in regulating our lives.

175 posted on 09/04/2013 7:18:44 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Bigtigermike

Indeed WHY?!

176 posted on 09/04/2013 9:11:56 AM PDT by Ron H.
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To: jjsheridan5

“It is people like you, incapable of rational discourse, which give conservatism a bad name. Good day.”

Unable to address the social issues that divide libertarian and conservative ideologies (because you can’t), you throw a tantrum, hurl an insult and walk away pouting. Typical.

Bottom line, libertarians are not conservatives and are not the political allies of conservatives. I can only imagine you post on this site because the libertarian sites are lonely places to be.


177 posted on 09/04/2013 10:06:40 AM PDT by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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To: WayneS
As far as I am concerned, the republicans have completely ceased to exist as a unique and viable political party.

They started to cease to exist to me when they nominated McCain and then Romney, but like a brainwashed idiot I still blindly supported the GOP.

I will never again vote for somebody just because they are a Republican. The only difference between a liberal with an (D) next to their name, and a liberal with an (R) next to their name is how fast they want to take us down the road to socialism.
178 posted on 09/05/2013 9:28:33 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: mountainlion
Republicans left me now I an headed to the Tea Party.

Amen to that. Done with the GOP and feel like a great weight has been lifted off my chest.

Never again will I be a Conservative every day of the year except when I vote for the liberals with (R) next to their names.
179 posted on 09/05/2013 9:32:18 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Owl558

“Unable to address the social issues that divide libertarian and conservative ideologies (because you can’t), you throw a tantrum, hurl an insult and walk away pouting. Typical.”

Because you continue to call him a Libertarian despite his repeated assertions of being a libertarian? What’s left to discuss. This argument that goes on, is about as ignorant as engaging a liberal who uses phrases like “teabagger” and “racist”. Might as well just walk away. You people in thread after thread continue to insist that everyone who even hints at being libertarian-minded as being a card-carrying member of the Libertarian party. No matter how many times the other person says they are not, the idiotic accusations continue.

Like I said I might as well be arguing with a sycophant liberal who says the tea party is racist. You both have about the same level of intellectual curiosity.


180 posted on 09/05/2013 10:15:55 AM PDT by techworker
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