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Rolling Stone journalist feared prior to crash his car was tampered with: Report
FOX News ^ | 8/22/2013 | Fox (author not specified)

Posted on 08/22/2013 1:04:43 PM PDT by LyinLibs

Edited on 08/22/2013 1:11:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: LyinLibs
The security video of the crash supposedly shows Hastings traveling approx 35-45 mph at the moment of impact.

I have no idea how accurate I am at looking at car speeds but the car seems to be flying. Who determined the vehicle's speed?

41 posted on 08/22/2013 3:11:11 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: LyinLibs; MestaMachine; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; txnuke; La Lydia; aragorn; ...

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Ping

Back to the thread.

In case you missed it, check out # 39.

“lots of good info in Comments beneath LAWEEKLY article HERE:”

http://www.laweekly.com/2013-08-22/news/michael-hastings-crash/full/#livefyre

For instance, one comment:

>>>>med examiner say he wasn’t impaired. he flew through a red light at near 100 mph moments before, possibly not by his own control. - former US intel expert Clarke says his car could have been hacked<<<<

Thanks, LyinLibs. Good find.


42 posted on 08/22/2013 3:17:16 PM PDT by LucyT (In politics, "Lack of Money" speaks louder than words. Stop donating to RINOs.)
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To: LyinLibs

Bout time someone had the guts to talk about at least one of the “timely and convenient” deaths during this admin.


43 posted on 08/22/2013 3:21:08 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Yeah he panicked. Being awake for days and blitzed out on meth, cocaine and marijuana will do that to ya

OMG, my FRiend. You are so completely wrong. Where are you getting your facts from ? Or are you just picking up sound bites the CIA has told the Media to distribute?

Although there were traces of Meth and Pot(which stays in the system for months), the levels indicated he WAS NOT 'HIGH' on either that night.

Please, you have been here a long time, long enough that you should feel a responsibility for getting your facts straight.

44 posted on 08/22/2013 3:25:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: LyinLibs
Just from a rough eyeballing of the street and car movement in that video (this is guesswork not scientific) I'd say that car was doing at least 100 feet per second, which is..... 68.18 mph.... maybe he was going even faster, I'm not sure.......

100 feet per second is 68.18 mph

I'm sure someone can do a precise analysis of distance and time in that video which would yield an exact speed.

45 posted on 08/22/2013 3:33:23 PM PDT by Enchante
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To: boxlunch

Says who?

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Says his family, friends, neighbors and loved ones. Hastings had a lifetime attraction to the dark side. And re-read my post 14. It seems you agree with me on my mistrust of the coroner.


46 posted on 08/22/2013 3:37:24 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: LyinLibs; Responsibility2nd
The security video of the crash supposedly shows Hastings traveling approx 35-45 mph at the moment of impact.

Facts are such pesky things. The MEDIA said he was doing over 100mph. No radar, no skid marks, absolutely nothing to base that 'speed' on. What they did is look at the severity of the explosion , and determine the only way that the car could have suffered that much 'explosive' damage and the immediate and COMPLETE FIRE was if Hastings was going over 100mph.

If you have seen a picture to the tree he came to rest against (after hitting the fireplug which was spraying his car with water), it is not even missing any bark.

Makes one wonder.... if you are being sprayed by the stream size and pressure that comes out of a fireplug, and your vehicle burns completely to a crisp, then how could it even be a 'natural' occurrence from a wreck?

I have seen many wrecks in my life, very bad ones, yet none of them were on fire. NONE of them.

Does anyone believe that if Mercedes Benz made a car that , during crash tests, turned into an instant cremation chamber, they would even sell it ?

47 posted on 08/22/2013 3:38:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: little jeremiah

See the links in reply #31 and 35. The coroners office said there was meth.

Before they said “well, maybe no meth.”


48 posted on 08/22/2013 3:39:23 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Hastings was stoned to the bone nutz.

And that's where you are completely wrong, and willingly ignorant of the true facts.

I am sorry the Media doesn't bother to cover ALL the facts when they publish a story, but they haven't been known for the TRUTH for a long , long time.

49 posted on 08/22/2013 3:41:19 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

I trust by now you’ve read the rest of the thread. And looked at links in replies that back me up.

But in case you still doubt me, ping me, and I’ll point out my sources.


50 posted on 08/22/2013 3:42:16 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

AND the levels found indicated he was not currently using it (for several days, at the least)


51 posted on 08/22/2013 3:43:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
So,,,, what’s the true story? Cremated against family wishes, or not?

Yes. The family did not want him to be burnt to a carbon cinder sitting in his own vehicle.

52 posted on 08/22/2013 3:45:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

“AND the levels found indicated he was not currently using it (for several days, at the least)”

Thanks! That’s what I thought I’d read.


53 posted on 08/22/2013 3:47:20 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I have read every bit of the thread. I always do. From post one to the most recent, or from my last post to the NEW last post, , everytime I access or post to a thread. I went back to verify your claim, and there are plenty of links. Not a one supports your claim. I saw the link you provided in post 30, which, as far as I can tell, has nothing whatsoever to do with the primary source article claims, nor most of the Freepers debate/conversation. The Biggest thing I could tell was that even though the article link had nothing to do with this thread, other than it being something that happened days if not weeks later, and more support for those who believe Brennan had Hastings killed, the main reason you posted it (because it sure wasn't about relevance) you wanted the CREDIT for posting a LINK on a thread. You not only mentioned it, but you copied and pasted the POSTING DATA showing the TIME/DATE (and most importantly) your screenname. Besides, early info I get is that the claim of cremation / refusal of the family thing may not be true at all, and is merely the media trying to distract the public by giving them more ghosts to chase.

Rarely have I seen someone post a link and pat themselves on the back so hard for having taking 20 seconds to post someone else's material. There is a word for a person who has satisfy their own ego by Shoving the fact that they made a miniscule and minor action, that even a cat could do, in everyone's face. (My cat is typing this for me right now. I have been deathly sick for two weeks, in the hospital for one week, and I no longer tolerate stupidity.

That's really all I know.

You should have just stuck with that from the beginning. Instead, you have made it glaringly obvious and an issue.

54 posted on 08/22/2013 4:11:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Apparently some Freepers are of the LOW INFORMATION/RAPID KNEE JERK type and once they decide their limited knowledge of the subject is right (because that is what they wanted to hear), they will no longer accept any factual input.


55 posted on 08/22/2013 4:16:30 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Apparently some Freepers are of the LOW INFORMATION/RAPID KNEE JERK type and once they decide their limited knowledge of the subject is right (because that is what they wanted to hear), they will no longer accept any factual input.


56 posted on 08/22/2013 4:22:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Nope. Wrong. Reply 30 is not my proof that you are wrong.

Guess again. (Hints. There are two replies. At least. And I didn’t post them.

Oh. And tell your cat not to type out long, wrong rambling nonsense. It makes you look stupid.


57 posted on 08/22/2013 4:26:10 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: LyinLibs

Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not following you.

Just as we suspected.


58 posted on 08/22/2013 4:30:31 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
But in case you still doubt me, ping me, and I’ll point out my sources.

Off the criticism and onto the learning process (which we all go through).

I'm not really interested in any links to the readers comment section in blogs, or tweets, or facebook musings or anything else that is the personal opinion of a person behind a computer screen who has no actual first hand experience with the case, or life, or a long term experience with dealing with the government and media.

I will pass on what I have found. Anyone could find it , (I just googled the issue of his autopsy and levels of intoxication. I'm almost completely sure you computer has access to google (or 1000's of other search engines), so you could have easily found this info your self.

Michael Hastings Autopsy.

Autopsy found traces of drugs after Hastings death

[ Family members told investigators that Hastings had been using the hallucinogenic dimethyltryptamine, or DMT, though the drug was not detected in a blood test after the crash.]

[Toxicology results showed small amounts of amphetamine in his blood, which indicated he had possibly taken methamphetamine many hours before his death. Traces of marijuana were also present, indicating he'd taken it hours earlier.]

[The report said a family member had last seen Hastings passed out at home about three hours before the crash. The person said Hastings had been smoking marijuana the night before the crash.] (yeah, because the first thing people do after taking meth is pass out. Right.)

59 posted on 08/22/2013 4:45:26 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I read the first very, very long article. Nothing about meth. Since you assert the coroners said "meth", pony up and post the direct quote. Plus I've also read that a small amount of amphetamine such as from Adderal could indicate taking days ago. Nothing about meth in the vastly long article. Indirect quotes paraphrasing what someone said someone ELSE said are somehow just not enough. I realize you really, really want Hastings to have been w tweater but you need something like a toxicology report. Not someone paraphrasing what someone else said paraphrasing yet a third party.

Thigpen argues that Hastings was not doing anything harder than pot. She strongly disputes the coroner's suggestion that Hastings was taking methamphetamine, saying it was much more likely the amphetamine found in his system came from Adderall. (A coroner's spokesman acknowledged that the amphetamine could have come from either Adderall or meth.)

60 posted on 08/22/2013 4:59:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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