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150 years later, Quantrill’s raid on Lawrence still stirs deep emotions – on both sides
The Wichita Eagle ^ | 08/21/2013 | Beccy Tanner

Posted on 08/21/2013 5:21:08 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen

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To: Lowell1775

That is right, machine gun fire. It was Senator Inouye of Hawaii that lost his arm to a grenade.

Bet you think of him as selfish too.

Too bad we didn’t have someone better to run than Dole. But we didn’t, because the guy who was better was beaten by Dole.


81 posted on 08/26/2013 10:17:12 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: donmeaker

Senator Inouye of Hawaii?.....don’t know about selfish. I do know he did a GREAT deal more damage to this country than a lost arm can repay.

http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/daniel_inouye.htm

Inouye On Killing babies.
Voted NO on restricting UN funding for population control policies.
Voted NO on prohibiting minors crossing state lines for abortion.
Voted NO on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions.
Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines.
Voted NO on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime.
Voted NO on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life.
Voted NO on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions.
Voted NO on banning human cloning.

On Spending:
Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Voted YES on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Feb 2009)
Voted NO on paying down federal debt by rating programs’ effectiveness. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on Balanced-budget constitutional amendment. (Mar 1997)

Inouye on Reverse Racism and Moral Apostasy:
Voted NO on recommending Constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)
Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)
Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)
Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)
Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
Voted NO on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
Voted YES on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
Voted NO on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
Voted YES Prohibit sexual-identity discrimination at schools. (Mar 2011)

Inouye On Second Amendment:
Voted NO on allowing firearms in checked baggage on Amtrak trains. (Apr 2009)
Voted YES on prohibiting foreign & UN aid that restricts US gun ownership. (Sep 2007)
Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
Voted NO on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
Voted NO on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
Rated F by the NRA, indicating a pro-gun control (ANTI-GUN) voting record. (Aug 2010)

Inouye On Illegal Immigration:
Voted YES on continuing federal funds for declared “sanctuary cities”. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on comprehensive immigration reform. (Jun 2007)
Voted NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)
Voted NO on building a fence along the Mexican border. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. (May 2006)
Voted YES on giving Guest Workers a path to citizenship. (May 2006)
Voted NO on limit welfare for immigrants. (Jun 1997)
Rated 0% by USBC, indicating an open-border stance. (Dec 2006)

It goes on and on…but oh wait....he was awarded the CMoH...so that makes him above reproach? Bullshit.

John Kerry is a decorated war hero.....can’t believe you are fan of his as well?
John McCain?
Fighter Ace and Congress-critter Duke Cunningham of CA. Uber conservative, but jailed for accepting $1.7mm in bribes for sending millions to a defense contractor when head of the defense appropriations committee.
The now deceased and decidedly crooked John Murtha or PA.....Murtha was a Marine and would throw it in the face of anyone who disagreed with his gun grabbing baby killing apostasy.

The list is endless and I am getting bored.

Suggest you quit dealing in swarmy anecdotes and dopy jingoistic worship over any man who ever had the bad luck to be shot or captured. Doesn’t make them a tin god.

Also, cut the puerile crap of snarkily impugning others’ patriotism or morality when they demand obedience to the laws of nature, God, and liberty from EVERY MAN regardless of past service.

I served and keep that service to myself. I don’t use it as an entitlement of deference or a demand for accolades from those that did not. Instead, I ask myself and demand of others.....”What have you done lately in the cause of freedom?”

Many on Free Republic may yet die in defense of the Constitution and do so without retirement points, re-enlistment bonuses, being drafted, or getting a health care plan.....both those that served and those that never did.

Don’t mean to beat up on you, but if you do judge men, judge men by how they serve today what they swore to uphold, not the tarnished brass on their shoulders or the colored ribbons on their chest.

As soldiers, we were drilled to salute three things and three things ONLY. The rank,the flag, the CMoH and what they represented. Never the man that wore them.


82 posted on 08/27/2013 9:30:27 PM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: Lowell1775

My limited understanding is that his arm didn’t pay for his votes, but rather his constituents returned him to office again and again because he did an adequate job of representing them.

I visit the 442 Regiment’s memorial in LA about once a month. No, I am not Japanese, it is nearby.

Perhaps you have seen the movie about the 442? They were brigaded with the 1st Special Service Force (Devil’s Brigade) in Italy. Interesting that their brigade had movies about both of their regiments.

Of the many votes you object to, I will defend one, the argument that the US government should conduct all its business in English. When I got my taxes done by HR Block, the tax preparer spoke mostly Spanish. My taxes are simple (I pay a lot) but I can see where people who speak Arabic (like the community in Mecca, California, largely immigrants who support the 29 Palms Marine base there with role players) would be uncomfortable if the IRS was forbidden to work with them in Arabic. Similar with immigrants from Nationalist China, Japan, or the Philippines. I had a shirt tail relative that was a Philippine Scout, who fought for the US in three wars, and his daughter married my brother. He eventually became an American citizen, and I would not have inflicted an English only IRS audit on him. I am perhaps as ungrateful as you.

A government that can speak different languages to its people is a good thing. I think language proficiency is a useful skill, at least as it teaches one’s brain to operate in different ways. I spent 4 years in Germany, after study of French in high school and Spanish in college, and in my position I found it useful to learn a bit of Russian as well as German. My son and daughter are studying Japanese (I would say that is a good thing as she will have extensive practice in saying “no”.) and even write songs in Japanese.

Former Senator Kerry was and is a liar. Two of his purple hearts were self inflicted injuries, to my understanding, and one was completely false. Affection for him is your strawman, not my position. That you resort to strawman argumentation shows you have no honest position that can stand the light of day.

It is as if I expressed appreciation for Audi Murphy, and you complained, asserting that he was in the same category of marines who rape Japanese girls on Okinawa. I know of no laws broken by Senator Inouye. Perhaps you do and I am just ill informed?


83 posted on 08/27/2013 10:03:09 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: Lowell1775

One more thing. Inouye voted against a ban on flag desecration. You seem to think that was a bad vote. I would have voted the same way. Historically, people in ancient Rome were prosecuted for desecration for walking into a latrine with a coin (with the emperor’s face on it) in their purse. Desecration is a religious offense, and that is a subject upon which the US government is not qualified to have a position.

I was in a class for Bible School teachers at my local Methodist Church the day the SCOTUS decison came down permitting flag burning as a form of speech. the instructor mentioned it, and people went around the room, with each person voicing some words opposed to the decision, until they got to me.

I pointed out that the word sacred was in meaning opposed to the word profane. The Church in the Middle Ages was the judge of things sacred, by which was meant things spiritual, and eternal. By contrast the State was the judge of things profane, by which was meant things temporal and material. By that definition the flag of any government was a symbol of the profane, and thus could not be desecrated, unless, like the Communists, your G-d was indeed the State. My copy of the Bible says words along the lines of “Thou shall have no other g-ds before me.”

So perhaps I have been an iconoclast for a long time.


84 posted on 08/27/2013 10:25:46 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: yarddog

I haven’t been posting so much lately either.

Dishonorable traitors should be disowned, not venerated. To venerate traitors is dishonorable, but they may indeed have done things honorable besides their dishonorable deeds. One can appreciate their good deeds.

But lying about them, asserting that their disnonor was honor and that their evil was virtue, well that compounds their sins with confounding error of the people who lie trying to hide the evil and sin.

Lies are the tribute vice must pay to virtue. One can’t be proud of an ancestor because of his penchant for rape, and his use of legal loopholes to get away with it, so there is a powerful incentive to lie, even to oneself, that the rapes may never have happened, or wasn’t legally documented, or the evidence has been carefully hidden and therefore it perhaps didn’t occur. Such a lie blackens the soul of those who tell it.


85 posted on 08/28/2013 10:30:50 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: driftless2

Tennessee provided quite a few regiments to the US Army to fight against the insurrection.

After Grant took most of Tennessee, the southern economy was in shambles. They significantly depended on Tennessee pork for their protein. ( Texas beef production greatly expanded after the war. Before the war, Oxen were grown as draft animals.) To compensate for that, the pretended confederacy ordered that instead of cash crops like cotton, even large plantations were to raise poultry to replace the missing pork.

To some extent they were successful, but that meant that US Army forces could live off the land, eating the chicken and geese that were locally grown. A visiting congressman brought fattened geese to have cooked for a dinner with men from his constituency. The men were rather embarrassed, they had eaten virtually nothing but geese as they maneuvered behind Vicksburg. After the insurrection forces at Vicksburg were bottled up, Grant was able to reopen the supply lines, and the men were issued hard tack biscuits to supplement their fowl provisions.


86 posted on 08/28/2013 10:41:27 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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