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Bloomberg’s Public Housing Fingerprinting Idea Stuns, Infuriates Residents
CBS ^ | 16 Aug 13 | Staff

Posted on 08/16/2013 6:58:14 PM PDT by SkyPilot

Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s latest crime-fighting idea had a lot of people riled up on Friday.

The mayor wants to fingerprint more than 600,000 people who live in public housing. He said it would be done to make the projects safer.

Bloomberg was responding to questions about Federal Judge Shira Schendlin’s ruling on the stop-and-frisk program when the topic shifted to security and the New York City Housing Authority. Bloomberg said there has to be a way to make the projects safer.

“Five percent of our population lives in NYCHA housing, 20 percent of the crime is in NYCHA housing – numbers like that. And we’ve just got to find some way to keep bringing crime down there. And we have a whole group of police officers assigned to NYCHA housing,” Bloomberg said. “The people that live there, most of them, want more police protection. They want more people. If you have strangers walking in the halls of your apartment building, don’t you want somebody to stop and say, ‘Who are you, why are you here?’”

But residents who live within the confines of NYCHA buildings said the mayor’s fingerprinting idea goes too far.

“That’s like invading someone’s privacy or something. Why you want to fingerprint somebody? It is bad enough you get arrested, you get finger printed, so why you want to fingerprint us? Now Bloomberg needs to get a job. Get out of here already. He’s done. Bloomberg is done,” Chelsea Houses resident Nino Alayon said.

“Why? For what? We live here all these years, I mean, what seems to be the problem? This is not jail,” added Deborah Gatling of the Chelsea Houses.

“I don’t feel that that’s right. Fingerprinted for what?” resident Alberta Hale added.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; fingerprint; newyork; newyorkcity; section8; welfare
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I think one of the posters to the news story said it best:

"Something tells me that most of them are fingerprinted already."

1 posted on 08/16/2013 6:58:14 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Oh heck...just go ahead and put a micro-chip in every New Yorker.

It’s “for the children”


2 posted on 08/16/2013 6:59:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
The top rated comment from the CBS site:

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Put me in charge of food stamps. Food Stamp ATM cards could only be used for food without the ability to get cash. No money for junk food, alcohol, tobacco, or sodas - just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, alcohol or tobacco, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV, Xbox 360 or a cell phone, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It might be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing or whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims, low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and use that $$ to reduce the debt.

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money youhave to accept our rules. Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin "self-esteem," consider that it wasn't all that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self-esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make those bad choices.

AND while you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct, since voting would be a conflict of interest. You will abstain from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then GET A JOB.

3 posted on 08/16/2013 7:00:25 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Bloomberg could just tattoo their identification number on their left forearm.
4 posted on 08/16/2013 7:04:42 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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Bloomberg is a blooming fascist. Please tell him to get out of Colorado


5 posted on 08/16/2013 7:07:50 PM PDT by cookcounty (IRS = Internal Revenge Service.)
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AND have random, monthly drug tests for every recipient of government money. Those who test positive would have their government money revoked for eight months.


6 posted on 08/16/2013 7:10:50 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: SkyPilot

Great post from the web site. Reminds me of the rarely quoted verse, “if a man will not work, he shall not eat.”


7 posted on 08/16/2013 7:12:25 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: cookcounty
Bloomberg is a blooming fascist. Please tell him to get out of Colorado

Cuba or North Korea?

8 posted on 08/16/2013 7:13:15 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: SkyPilot

Mr Bloomberg is quite the controller. New Yorkers must love him.


9 posted on 08/16/2013 7:13:20 PM PDT by lurk
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To: SkyPilot

10 posted on 08/16/2013 7:14:25 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Standing Wolf
Cuba or North Korea?

In Cuba or North Korea, if you don't work, you don't have a place to live, you don't eat, and so on. Public housing residents in NYC get free digs without having to work for it, unless having a pulse is considered working.

11 posted on 08/16/2013 7:18:26 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: cookcounty
Bloomberg is a blooming fascist. Please tell him to get out of Colorado

Actually, he is fairly conservative in the traditional sense of the word, which eschews laissez faire and libertinism in favor of societal curbs on errant individual behavior. Fascism requires that a people be united via bonds of blood and soil. That's a physical impossibility in multi-racial and -ethnic New York City. Ultimately, he's clamping down on black and Hispanic criminals in NYC while couching it in ethnically neutral terms.

12 posted on 08/16/2013 7:24:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SkyPilot

Good idea, but ACLU will jump on this issue in favor of the criminal elements that inhabit public housing projects.


13 posted on 08/16/2013 7:32:10 PM PDT by mohresearcher
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“AND while you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct, since voting would be a conflict of interest. You will abstain from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then GET A JOB.”

If they want government assistance, they will also have to get a voter ID card.

That will explode the heads on the left.


14 posted on 08/16/2013 7:36:57 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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So are you willing to submit to all that in return for your Social Security check and Medicare coverage?

If govt. can require such intrusions for welfare, they can require them for govt.-funded retirement programs as well.

15 posted on 08/16/2013 7:53:33 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Zhang Fei
Actually, he is fairly conservative in the traditional sense of the word, which eschews laissez faire and libertinismFREEDOM in favor of societal curbs on errant individual behavior.

Fixed it for you, Rudybot. ;)

16 posted on 08/16/2013 7:58:08 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
AND have random, monthly drug tests for every recipient of government money.

Been tried in two states -- the welfare recipients had lower positives than the general population. And the tests cost more than the savings. Program dropped.

17 posted on 08/16/2013 7:58:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: SkyPilot

600,000 people in NYC are living in public housing ???

How is this sustainable??


18 posted on 08/16/2013 7:59:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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And they are damn skippy correct...except for one part (IMHO): violation of ‘Rights’. It is not the gov’t $$, it is the TAXPAYER $$. That ‘charity’ comes from the end of a gun. Don’t like the new rules, tough sh!te.

LOVE the barracks idea. Good enough for your (wo)men, good enough for the brood mares and the like. BARE minimum and ‘free’ cleaning of parks, streets, rest stops, etc.

Yep, that last part’d get ‘em off ‘assistance’ damn quick


19 posted on 08/16/2013 8:00:53 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Gov't always start as MAY and SHOULD, but soon becomes one of WILL and SHALL. Never let them START.)
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To: SkyPilot

He can get their fingerprints offa discarded jumbo sodas.


20 posted on 08/16/2013 8:07:52 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
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