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To: SoFloFreeper

He’s not really off on his statement. All the things he mentioned are sins, and are all practiced by various people.

He publicly opposes gay marriage. But being gay does not preclude you from getting a job in our country, and people should be able to admit what they are. (I’d prefer they all keep it to themselves).

We all probably know gay people, and most of us probably work with gay people. We probably also know, and maybe work with, or are friends with, people who are living together without being married, or having sex outside of marriage, or have committed adultery, or been divorced, or stole things, or committed any number of other sins.

We are all sinners, and I don’t look to isolate myself from sinners. I condemn sin. I “love the sinner”.


66 posted on 08/14/2013 9:06:16 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well, people are sinners unless and until saved and gone to heaven. I think we don’t need people to say certain sins get the honor of being a badge they wear, though. How would it look to talk about “thieving players”? Lets get some sense here. If someone says to you “I’m ‘gay’” I think your answer should be “I do not look upon you as ‘gay.’ I look upon you as a human being, as Joe [or Mary or whoever]. I will proceed on this basis.”


67 posted on 08/14/2013 9:13:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Hey, also “loving the sinner” means you DO dare to press the gospel to the person, a gospel which is the gospel of YES (Yes you can be a clean, sanctified, forever forgiven person who lives up to everything God wanted for the creation, and while fighting the devil towards that goal will need effort and probably much trial and error, you do not need to earn any of your forgiveness ever) rather than the gospel of NO (ahh, look at Leviticus and wallow in your guilt and shame).

Too much modern Christianity is laden with Churchianity. It leans a lot on pride as a crutch, quite frankly. And it can impart the unfortunate connotation that a saved life is a bland vanilla thing, like a lot of Christian music and church services. NO... a saved life has every bit of power God put in the creation, but it is a channeled power. It is MORE than natural. It’s supernatural. One could even call it a sort of “good magic” (”God’s spell”). It does NOT smell of the old ladies in the church or of the furniture polish on the pews. It is a whole ‘nother world.


73 posted on 08/14/2013 9:35:32 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and mean it. See my page.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Don’t tell anyone, but I once hired a gay person because she was the best person qualified for the job. She was one of the best employees who ever worked for me. She was also a conservative who did not support gay marriage. She got in a big argument about it with a fellow worker who was a liberal. Talk about watching worlds collide, that poor liberal got beat to death with her own bigotry stick.

As I said earlier, I do not support in any way the gay political/social agenda. I do not support them in their sin (anymore than I support anyone who in sinning). I do not believe they should be treated any differently than anyone else. I don’t think it helps my cause to demean them and call them names. I hope for them the same I hope for anyone including myself. That they would repent of their sins and accept Christ as their Savior and let Him transform their lives day by day.


76 posted on 08/14/2013 10:02:35 AM PDT by CityCenter (Pleading the 5th is just so 1972.)
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