Posted on 08/14/2013 7:02:28 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
What the hell are you trying to say?
That post was quite nice actually
Im catching up
What is it with you sorts who think only the sinless may critique immorality
That sorta relativism is rather harmful
And on a conservative forum?
I’m pinging two big minds....3 actually
And someone pretty tough on sexual immorality
This ain’t Salem no matter nor Hawthorne
More like Caligula’s barge and someone has to cut the mooring lines you kniw
Well, call the bible a “dogmatic onion” all you want. I have excellent reason to disagree and to call the book you’re hung up on a manmade work that is in fact penned in a spirit so obsessed with the devil that it cannot see God. The devil is a little runt next to God and cannot generate any light. But there is no darkness at all in God. Anyhow, that obsession and narrowness renders it into a dark, spiritually useless work. Works that say “Look! The devil! Everywhere!” will tend to be that way no matter WHO writes them, from your favorite author to genuine Christian luminaries.
I call the bible, on the other hand, a spiritual work of light taught by the Holy Spirit. The Lord is literally gripping me with the Holy Spirit yet not as a robot. I’m not here obeying preachers or priests. I’m obeying the Lord, who is sovereign. Sovereign over you, too, whether or not you like that, though He is showing forbearance for now; he wants willing children, not robots.
At this juncture I’ve said pretty well all that I could say that my Lord wants me to say. I wish you a blessed future, not a cursed one, but the Lord can’t bless a dark work to be a light one. My advice, jettison that book and go back to the bible and to respected bible commentaries.
Ciao... but not your slave... and your name seems curiously apropos now because the devil DOES shoot flaming arrows... it was a very good test of my shield of faith and my breastplate of righteousness though, so thanks for that! (They passed!)
I think he’s trying to say lots of hell... as long as he clings to that weird book....
One of the great contributions of Christianity to the Roman Empire was the suppression of both sodomy and prostitution.
Well, Christianity gave people a reason to live a life above that kind of depravity. It informed them that there was a God above all who made them and who desired them to turn from sin, be forgiven, and choose to glorify Him and that He would reward them if they did so. Call it suppression by spiritual displacement, if you have to call it suppression at all.
“He can be Christian and recognize that not everyone else is so they don’t have to live by the same rules.
News flash: not everyone is Christian.”
So... you would have no objection to Muslims bringing the practice of polygamy to the United States? Or child marriage?
I’m curious to learn just how far your “don’t have to live by the same rules” idea extends.
“Call it suppression by spiritual displacement, if you have to call it suppression at all.”
Of course it was suppression. It was codified into Roman law.
He, as alas many if not most American Christians, is weak on the gospel. The gospel tells of a God who will BLESS to sexual integrity. We hear almost nothing about that next to countless repetitions of Leviticus, which are true enough but if you stop there that is only half the story, and not even the most useful half. Without that important part of the gospel there really ISN’T any compelling reason to call homosexuals up short any more. Might as well they go to hell because they can’t be brought to heaven! God weeps.
At the same time, law is honored very often in the breach. Without a police state things like this could go on for years unnoticed.
Let me mention too that this half-gospel is dangerous in that people can indeed accept Christ for salvation, but because nobody has assured them that they can in fact count on being able to rest on a forgiving (not excusing, forgiving) and empowering Christ, they instead launch into that Christian walk resting on pride. And some do it for years and they are spiritually emaciated and see little victory. I know! I have been there and done that! On the other hand, resting on the love of Christ, even if the result seems embarrassing at first, will quickly engage the power of the Holy Spirit, and wonderful victory AND a very close omnipotent presence of the Lord will be seen.
The law is a schoolmaster.
Yes, it is useful in that regard.
But also, as Paul pointedly points out, it is weak through the flesh.
And... various low-faith teachings that you can lose your salvation once gained, can make it hard to keep a faith that you are resting on Christ. Eeek I didn’t confess enough! Eeek I did something terrible! Eeek I believed but now I committed the “unpardonable sin” which sounds like it’s a hair trigger! Eeek I didn’t give God a big enough penance!
BALDERDASH to that stuff, but I had to really live it to find out that it was so. The silver lining to these clouds: God doesn’t waste our hardships that may come from bumbling around in a low-faith world. It’s like getting hit on the head with a hammer, it feels so wonderful when it stops. The devil can NOT out fox God; we will live for eternity so a short hard time during our earthly life is like, nothing.
It's that the sinning "critiquers" are always "critiqiuing" the immorality and sins of others.
It's the "holier than thou your sins are worse than my sins" hypocrisy from sinners!
“Christianity, it is said, begins from the burning of the false gods by the people themselves. Education begins with the burning of our intellectual and moral idols: our
prejudices, notions, conceits, our worthless or ignoble purposes. Especially it is necessary to shake off the love of worldly gain.”
—pg 28
http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/masonry/Albert_Pike_-_Morals_and_Dogma.pdf
The NFL is full of false gods who personify the love of worldly gain.
When its gladiatorial man-gods become instruments for the subversion and demoralization of the society that feeds it, then what it renders is far, far, away from being “JUST A GAME”.
>>“Look! The devil! Everywhere!”
And the devil, no doubt, loves religion.
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