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To: SeekAndFind

Eventually that is going to come up.

IMO Obama already cracked that glass ceiling.

There is no way Cruz can be turned down without opening the Pandora’s box on Obama.

We are all entitled to know Obama’s secrets, all of them.


8 posted on 08/12/2013 9:29:50 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Venturer
Eventually that is going to come up.

Of course it will. And, the Cruz haters will buy lots of books and DVD's from birther hucksters. But, none of that will matter because the vast majority of Americans will correctly regard his having been born a citizen as sufficient to make him a natural born citizen.

Ted Cruz - 2016

15 posted on 08/12/2013 9:36:22 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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Obama has nothing to do with Ted Cruz’s own position on his own eligibility. Had there never been an Obama, Ted Cruz is eligible and would explain it the same way, regardless of others’ circumstances.

When you link it with Obama, you’ve gone so far off the track of the issue of “natural born” and what that means, that the issue isn’t even rationally debatable.

I’ll take Ted Cruz on the defintion of “natural born” and his eligibility over the misinformed daily opines, any time, any place.

Just to have fun throwing this in, those who are the most adamant that Cruz is not natural born are actually - if you follow out the “logic” of what they’re claiming - saying that Cruz is not even an American. Not any kind of American.

Even if they don’t use those words, and even if they feign shock and surprise that they are claiming that whether intentionally or not, that IS the end result of their claim he can’t run.

The same claims made against his presidential eligibility would - if true - make him a foreigner. Either Canadian or Cuban - take your silly pick, or the only other option, A MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY.

Whereas Cruz says you’re either a citizen when you are born, or else you must become naturalized later on, to be an American citizen.

Cruz and most legal scholars say being the offspring of an American citizen mother who was of legal age is the controlling factor making him a citizen at birth (natural born).

Not the soil of Canada, not the ancestral land of Cuba, not the naturalized father.

I’m advancing CRUZ’S position on the matter. Will I debate it with the outliers on FR? No, why should I? Cruz can handle it fine, himself, and has plenty of qualified help on the issue.


22 posted on 08/12/2013 9:57:27 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Venturer

“There is no way Cruz can be turned down without opening the Pandora’s box on Obama.”

The GOP has the capacity to show otherwise.

There are $$millions in book pages, webpages, speaking fees.

There are Orly and Joseph and Jerome to start their plots.


55 posted on 08/12/2013 3:09:19 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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