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To: Gaffer
Recording the actual phone call or not even a call to anyone is plain old eavesdropping monitoring. They had damned well better have a named warrant for that.

your clintonian parser must be fried from overuse lately.

without a warrant, any such activity would not be admissible to court...

that doesn't mean they aren't doing it with no intention of submitting it to the courts. this would be 'legal' as it wouldn't be used against you... therefore, no warrant needed.

/clintonian-parser

68 posted on 08/03/2013 12:55:14 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten

“that doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it with no intention of submitting it to the courts. this would be ‘legal’ as it wouldn’t be used against you... therefore, no warrant needed.”

Meaning....that by the time you’ve realized that the info gleened from eavesdropping on conservative Americans will indeed by used against us, it will already be too late and we’ll already be well on our way to those FEMA camps via boxcars.


74 posted on 08/03/2013 1:21:57 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: sten

If they submit already obtained (illegally) evidence for issuance of a warrant, they have committed a crime.

What I’m saying is that they can’t do this without a warrant with YOUR particular name on it (not that FISA blanket data archiving crap). Secondly, if they use all the phone itself to gather/record data without that warrant in order to GET a warrant, they are committing a crime.

It has nothing to do with Clinton or parsting. They are only supposedly allowed to gather the ‘metadata’ associated with all phone traffic, not specific conversations, per what the NSA and other intels have told us they have been approved for by FISA. Yes, you and I know they illegally are also recording the non-metadata and turning on phones that are off, etc. This is patently illegal without a specific warrant. ILLEGAL...if they lie about it, then it is a very serious broach of our freedom and the perpetrators belong in prison.


84 posted on 08/03/2013 2:17:54 PM PDT by Gaffer
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