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The College Degree Scam
American Thinker ^ | 07/31/2013 | Carole Hornsby Haynes

Posted on 07/31/2013 7:46:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: EEGator
Single or not, I've been around a lot of them....

Being an officer in the service of our country doesn't necessarily guarantee a high level of common sense either....been around lots of them to...

Wanna talk about lawyers next? We have one in the white hut....

Starting to see a trend here?

61 posted on 07/31/2013 1:50:28 PM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

His statement does stand for the vast majority of underwater fire prevention, wymens studies, etc...

It’s almost like the housing bubble, if you can fog a mirror, a college somewhere will figure out a way to get 4 years of your time and money for a sheepskin...


62 posted on 08/01/2013 12:02:02 AM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: warchild9
If people want to move to crappy—but beautiful—places like the Dakotas instead of entering a professional career path, more power to them. But once their bodies start breaking down in a blue-collar job and the economy leaves them stranded...

I'm a Licensed Professional Geologist, know a slew of engineers, also registered professionals, doctors, lawyers, dentists, CPAs--there is no shortage of professional jobs in the Dakotas, either, and they pay well.

Some here will do the blue collar jobs out in the patch, gain a skill, and be able to put themselves through college, sans debt, and comfortably, if they so choose. Others are going to be on the blue-collar track for life, but that does not always mean grunt labor--many will go on to supervisory positions, some will start their own companies, and so forth.

IF a young person has the ability and the sense of direction to know what course of study they wish to undertake, fine, maybe they'll get those student loans paid off after all. College isn't for everyone, but working a grunt job is fine motivation to renew academic pursuits.

Frankly, though, from what I have seen, the real scam is before 13th grade, where those who can't work simple math problems or communicate effectively in writing are handed a High School Diploma.

63 posted on 08/01/2013 12:12:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
College is just a new name for communist reeducation camp. It sucks the common sense out of your brain and replaces it with Marxist dogma. A college degree is noting but a piece of paper for stupid people to hide behind and claim superiority.

While I will be the first to say that college isn't for everyone, you get out of it what you put into it.

If you want to settle for being a parrot and regurgitating Marxist Dogma, you can, and have fun with that Sociology degree and asking "You want fries with that?".

If, on the other hand, you pursue excellence in a 'red meat' field (the 'hard' sciences, mathematics,engineering, pre-med), what you get will be far better than just a head full of useless garbage. Even the 'humanities' courses I took back when flanged into my geology degree (I took Archaeology/Anthropology to fill that requirement, and later worked on an archaeological crew).

You can get a worthwhile education in spite of the dogmatic Marxists running about, especially if you avoid the courses of study given to being polluted with that dogma.

Most won't because it's too hard...., and end up in a field where it will take them twenty years to pay off their student loans.

64 posted on 08/01/2013 1:42:20 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Einherjar

They had one hell of a New Year’s party in Hue that year...


65 posted on 08/01/2013 1:47:32 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Utilizer
This is series

Is part of FReeper lore, along with "this is hugh!", stuned beebers, and the like. Most who post it are taking a sarcastic stab at the topic at hand.

66 posted on 08/01/2013 1:52:22 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: rightwingextremist1776
A college degree is noting but a piece of paper for stupid people to hide behind and claim superiority.

Absolutely.

Jobs didn't need one. Neither did Gates.

67 posted on 08/01/2013 1:57:43 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: SeekAndFind
"If you want a degree, got to college. If you want an education, go to the library."--- My grandpa
68 posted on 08/01/2013 2:03:35 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Axenolith

That’s a real problem we have, that pushes credentialism way beyond its actual utility in the hiring process. Reset some employment law with respect to supposed racially discriminatory hiring practices and a lot of credentialism crap would go away.


69 posted on 08/01/2013 2:19:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Actually, like any government program, public education is a employment program, design to transfer money from useful people with jobs to others in return for votes.

If students pick up a little education along the way, that’s all the better. Quality is irrelevant. What counts is maintaining paychecks to individuals who might become malcontents otherwise.

/remember, I teach college
//I’m paid from a private foundation—not a drop of your money


70 posted on 08/01/2013 3:00:52 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Smokin' Joe
No offence, mate, but perhaps you should take another look at My profile page. I have been a FReeper since the beginning years of the Klintoon administration -actually a Lurker since before it, and signed up to begin posting quite soon after that, so no I must disagree with you on that point.

If I were asked to think about when FReeperisms first began, other than the term itself of course, off the top of My head the 'Blind' instead of 'Kind' I believe probably provided the first momentum. Cal could tell you about that. She was last working with the Keyes administration when she left her more constant postings here and was asked to work there.

A "Clymer" is a FReeperism. Hugh and series are nothing more than the inane postings of some juvenile poseurs in recent years in a poor attempt to come close. Another FReeper put it best I believe when he likened it to for years having to listen to his favourite uncle who unfortunately was suffering from dementia repeating the same poor joke every morning. For about ten years.

Merely proof that Rachel Jantel has relatives or possibly even siblings with equally overinflated opinions of their own intelligence attempting to prove that they be mo' smahdah dan ol-skool.

Scribblings and spraypaint on walls as opposed to a Betsy Ross tribute to posterity, inadvertent though it might have been on her part.

71 posted on 08/01/2013 9:24:36 AM PDT by Utilizer (what does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely!)
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To: Utilizer
Oh, and I forgot to mention the "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" postings. Not really funny, except to some, but at least the originators of that history realized that it was losing its appeal and let it die out instead of petulantly attempting to continually post it on every thread possible like some I could list.

And yes, that is "losing" in its proper usage, Rachel and you others.

Hmmm. A "Rachel". Another possible FReeperism... Perhaps someone should make a list and always post on every thread the series-makers obvious aliases. Bears consideration.

72 posted on 08/01/2013 9:51:20 AM PDT by Utilizer (what does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely!)
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To: Utilizer

I believe a lexicon of Freeperisms was done a few years back. It was hugh and series. Have a nice day, even if it hurts.


73 posted on 08/01/2013 10:11:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Whatever, mate. Surprised you did not loose (hint, hint) the list yet. As in the law of threes, may your intents be returned as put forth, and you have an interesting day yourself...


74 posted on 08/01/2013 10:44:41 AM PDT by Utilizer (what does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Nothing wrong with blue collar jobs. I do physical exams on truck drivers. The unionized ones do very well. But If you own your own rig, you can make BANK. Well into 6 figures.

Many drivers make more than I do with an M.D.

People laugh when I tell them that I seriously considered becoming a truck driver.

Why laugh? Decent bucks, get to see the country, meet interesting people, and hardly anyone sues truck drivers.

75 posted on 08/01/2013 4:45:50 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: tnlibertarian
Hue, Republic of Vietnam, 1968:

I believe you'll find this is what he is referring to.

76 posted on 08/01/2013 6:38:23 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: boop
I have a college degree which helps me make a fine living. However, that was not always so, as demand for my professional niche fluctuates with oil prices.

Among other things, I have also worked heavy construction from pick and shovel to equipment operator, done remodeling work, concrete, framing, fitted structural steel, bartended, roughnecked on oil rigs, and did a host of different jobs around the farm as a younger man, working with cattle, tobacco, and sheep.

I have picked tomatoes in the hot sun and trailed along a pipeline with a 'jeeper' looking for tears in the protective jacket while it was being lowered into the trench.

I have nothing but the greatest appreciation for people who make their livings thus year in and year out, who seek excellence at their trade, and would turn again to whatever task I need in order to feed my family--doing each to the best of my ability, because I do not do things by halves.

I learned a lot about how things work, met a lot of fine people along the way, and do my best to not wear my education on my sleeve. In the context of the jobs I was doing, it was seldom relevant, and the tricks of the trade--whichever trade at the time--were the relevant knowledge that others possessed and I did not--although I learned as much as I could as quickly as I could because that is my nature.

When one considers the current job market, and the proliferation of people who simply don't want to get their hands dirty, a trade (union or not in a right to work state like this one) means a relatively secure occupational niche and the ability to start their own business fairly quickly--without the capital outlay or debt of a four year degree.

Pay depends on demand and competence, and while demand overall cannot be controlled, competence can be, and an increase in competence leads to an increase in demand for your work, whatever it is.

I haven't driven truck for a living--my one opportunity was lost when the employer saw me showing a kid how to break concrete with a jackhammer and decided he wanted me breaking things instead of hauling them--but I'd sure consider it if demand for geologists flatlines.

77 posted on 08/01/2013 6:47:00 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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