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Apple investigating iPhone 5 user death by electrocution
FoxNews.com | July 15, 2013 | FoxNews.com

Posted on 07/15/2013 9:40:56 AM PDT by topher

Apple said Monday it would investigate claims that a Chinese woman was killed by an electric shock she received when answering a call while the device was charging.

The claim quickly drew attention after a woman in the western region of Xinjiang wrote about the death of her 23-year-old sister Ma Ailun on China's popular microblog service Sina Weibo.

"We will fully investigate and cooperate with authorities in this matter," said Apple's Beijing-based spokeswoman Carolyn Wu, offering condolences to the family.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; electrocution; iphone; vanity
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To: cuban leaf
DID use math to support his wiring

So what voltage are they wired at? What is the voltage rating of the CAT5 cable. The math should not be limited to only amperage. I am a registered professional electrical engineer specialized in power systems. I correct mistakes made by electricians all the time.

61 posted on 07/15/2013 10:36:10 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

The amount of money save over using #14 AWG is what $20?


:-)

You’re preaching to the choir.

I just know this guy and he likes to do things HIS way and whenever he can save five cents he will. This family is an interesting study for me. Almost everything they eat is off their own property. They slaughter and process their own meat, including pork sausage. They home school their three kids, the youngest of which is 13 now.

They drive two beater cars that I would not trust to carry me ten miles. They live on almost zero income. They are exactly the kind of “middle class” family you would expect to find in appalacia.

They like me being in the “family band” because I am a good experience for their kids and I like it because they are enlightening to me as well. Oh, and their main source of income is selling raw milk and cheese and some eggs.

They built their own house and barns, and you don’t need building permits out here. I doubt VERY seriously they have insurance of any kind.

BTW, his specialty is solar power. ;-)

CAT 5 wire for 110 volt of ANY wattage is not worth it for me. It makes zero sense. I leave him to do whatever he wants, though.


62 posted on 07/15/2013 10:37:51 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: thackney

It is your call to knowingly participate and consider it okay.


I don’t expect it to get to a point where I even need to make a call. But if it does, I’ll make the right one.

These guys do all sorts of stuff like this and never complete the task, if you get my drift. It was pretty comical to see a big fat electrical cord end in a heavy duty four outlet electrical box with two switches and two cat five plugs. It would be “fun” to plug your computer into one of them, which brings up another problem with this. ;-)


63 posted on 07/15/2013 10:40:33 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: topher

64 posted on 07/15/2013 10:40:59 AM PDT by Magnum44 (I have had just about enough)
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To: cuban leaf
I don’t expect it to get to a point where I even need to make a call. But if it does, I’ll make the right one.

If you go with them and participate where this wiring is used, that point is now.

65 posted on 07/15/2013 10:43:40 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

So what voltage are they wired at?


I have no clue. I saw them actually come on and noticed the wiring didn’t get hot. I confess that when I first saw it I just assumed he was using LED lights and I thought, “new lighting requires looking at wiring under a new paradigm”.

But when I saw they were regular light bulbs and 150 watts each, I thought, WTF!!!

If he ever tries to actually use them, I’ll get a bit more serious about it. The simple reason is that, as one person said, if I’m part of the group that brings these things into a venue and they burn the place down, my life could get more interestinger. ;-)

It was pretty amazing that he actually DID wire it that way, though.

Come to think of it, I remember using speaker wire in the ceiling of my house about 34 years ago to wire up a three bulb track lighting thingee. I should check to see if that house is still there.


66 posted on 07/15/2013 10:45:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: moose07

Wikipedia says 230 V 50 HZ. Apparently Great Britain had 240 V and Northern Ireland had 220 V, so 230 V was guanteed to make everyone unhappy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity_by_country


67 posted on 07/15/2013 10:47:28 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: RobertClark

I think the issue is a possible fault in the transformer.


68 posted on 07/15/2013 10:48:25 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: cuban leaf
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Lots of stuff "works just fine" but is so unsafe to be quite stupid.

I used to include one of these each month in my department meetings to see who could site the Code Violations.

69 posted on 07/15/2013 10:54:09 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

If you go with them and participate where this wiring is used, that point is now.


Thanks for the advice. But I doubt I’ll ever see the light bar again. He was just very proud of his handiwork and had to show it to me. :-)


70 posted on 07/15/2013 11:00:22 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: thackney

They all look pretty safe to me. ;-)

Those pictures are all hilarious!


71 posted on 07/15/2013 11:03:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

I looked up Cat5 on Wikipedia and it shows for AWG24 a max current of .577A per conductor. If he wired it quadrifilar with no daisy chaining of lights, that would give a max current of 2.3A which should? supply one 150watt light.
Not that I would of done it.


72 posted on 07/15/2013 11:04:23 AM PDT by Elderberry
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To: cuban leaf
Those pictures are all hilarious!

Sadly, they are only a few of hundreds...

73 posted on 07/15/2013 11:10:13 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Sadly, they are only a few of hundreds...


Well, I look at some of the things I’ve done in the past to give electrons a place to go and its amazing I have not burned anything down.

I remember playing at a gig and we had a terrible hum in the PA. It was because the main mixer was on one electrical circuit and the stage power was on another. I think you know the fix: one of those three prong to two prong adaptors. And boy did I get a lot of grief from electricians at Harmony-central for using one of those.

Couple that with the fact that I am also a vocalist in the band, and it speaks to why I use a wireless pickup on my bass. ;-)


74 posted on 07/15/2013 11:14:28 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

If I was to ever put 110 volts on CAT5 it would be fused at 1/100 of an amp.


75 posted on 07/15/2013 11:26:04 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: thackney
...To use the 600W lights in a 28 gauge wire you are going to need ~480V...

For the record, Cat5 uses 24-26ga. conductors. Was he using one conductor per bulb? That's what the original comment sounded like to me.

76 posted on 07/15/2013 11:31:20 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: Quickgun

cmon it was a joke! sheesh


77 posted on 07/15/2013 11:42:33 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

“No mention of whether it’s an Apple charger or some knock-off charger. “

Is there a difference in China?


78 posted on 07/15/2013 11:45:39 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Elderberry

I’ve been wet with sweat(imagine that here in Texas)and have gotten a pretty good “tingle” from an auto battery.The path the electricity takes through your body has much do do with lethality, too. There have been instances where people have had arms virtually burned off by transmission lines and lived.60ma could be fatal, IMHO, the voltage would have to be pretty high. AC current is more aggressive in terms of shock, anyway in most of the applications we deal with.


79 posted on 07/15/2013 11:46:04 AM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: FreedomOfExpression

Thanks. I usually work with stuff like 500 kcmil, 12.47kV.


80 posted on 07/15/2013 12:04:59 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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