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Jurors start deliberating George Zimmerman case
Houston Chronicle ^ | 07/12/2013 | MIKE SCHNEIDER and KYLE HIGHTOWER

Posted on 07/12/2013 12:20:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 07/12/2013 12:20:39 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

SANFORD, Fla. (AP)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: jury; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Dick Bachert

WhateverinHELL moved the defense team to accept 6 WOMEN for this jury? As any reasonable man knows, women operate almost exclusively on the basis of EMOTION!!

I resent that!

As a Woman who has been called an “ice queen” because I expressly don’t get all emotional over certain things.

But yeah in general that is an accurate asessment. I guess I am just an exception to the rule.

If the jury was six of my clones there would be no concern, but alas, it was probably chosen as an emotional ploy to convict zimmerman...

Hopefully they move for a mis-trial as thwe jury was most certainly NOT his peers.


41 posted on 07/12/2013 12:42:14 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: bigtoona
Out of concern that their Facebook friends will ostracize them.

Spot on.

42 posted on 07/12/2013 12:43:43 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Women on criminal juries are notorious for voting to acquit.


43 posted on 07/12/2013 12:44:20 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant

Well, let’s hope and pray that they stay true to tradition this time and continue this “notoriety” :)


44 posted on 07/12/2013 12:46:57 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Point to ponder:

Throughout the trial there has been a distinct LACK of people on talk shows blabbing about the facial ques/body language.

If it was going well for the race crowd I’d think they’d be screaming it 24/7.

Just an observation.


45 posted on 07/12/2013 12:49:03 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Strategerist

Did you consider the possibility the woman was lying? Happens a lot in those cases.

Could you post the name of the cas and state? Is like to read any appellate decision that might exist. Freepmail me if you want.


46 posted on 07/12/2013 12:50:38 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: newfreep
I still maintain that’s a cross-dressing John Goodman...

Chris Farley.

47 posted on 07/12/2013 12:51:06 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Thane_Banquo

I guess you don’t think much of women.


48 posted on 07/12/2013 12:51:16 PM PDT by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Ted Grant

Two of these jurors have CCL’s so I’m thinking a hung jury is worst case scenario. Personally I’m betting on not guilty.


49 posted on 07/12/2013 12:53:34 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
Could you post the name of the cas and state? Is like to read any appellate decision that might exist. Freepmail me if you want.

I considered the possibility the woman was lying; it wasn't a rape, there was no physical evidence and no witnesses other than the victim. I concluded the victim wasn't lying, in part because I think she would have made up WORSE abuse then simply being fondled where she was if she was making it up.

We found out after the verdict was read that the perp had met the grandmother of the victim while he was in prison (he was in prison for molesting a little girl on a playground - we were told he was in prison but not what for). The grandmother and a sister had testified for the defense, amazingly (really ugly family situation, victim's mother was in prison for bank robbery. I concluded the victim seemed like the only sane person in the entire family.)

No appeal because the perp, an older man, dropped dead of a heart attack the next day. This was in Caroline County Maryland in the 2000s, can't remember the exact date.

50 posted on 07/12/2013 12:57:07 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Dick Bachert

There are worse things for a white man to do in a hard joint than get on with the brand


51 posted on 07/12/2013 12:58:39 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: Dallas59

Haven’t seen ozzy Osborne look that good in a while. Got to get rid of the blond hair. . It makes him look like miss piggy.


52 posted on 07/12/2013 1:05:10 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The whole case is BS and the women jurists should be honest enough to state so, it’s their obligation irregardless of external factors-——“Zimmerman was on neighbourhood watch patrol. He was doing nothing illegal.
He was carrying a gun he had a Florida state permit for. That is not illegal.
He saw someone who he did not recognize. This is not illegal. He was suspicious. That is not illegal.
He phoned [non-emergency] to report it. That is not illegal.
The dispatcher asked Zimmerman if the “suspect” were black, white or Latino. Zimmerman replied, “I THINK he is black”. That is not illegal.
The dispatcher asked Zimmerman if he was following Martin. He replied he was and the dispatcher told him that was not necessary. Zimmerman continued past the T where TM had turned. That is not illegal.
Martin approached Zimmerman and asked him if he (Zimmerman) had a problem. Zimmerman said he did not have a problem. So far Zimmerman has done nothing illegal.
Zimmerman reached for his cell phone. That is not illegal.
Martin says, “you got a problem now”, and punched Zimmerman in the face.
At this point Zimmerman has done nothing illegal.
Martin has just committed assault and battery. That is illegal.
The blow broke Zimmerman’s nose and knocked him to the ground.
At this point Zimmerman has done nothing illegal.
Martin gets on top of Zimmerman and pounds him with his fists. Zimmerman still has done nothing illegal.
Martin continues his illegal assault and battery. Martin pounds Zimmerman’s head on the concrete side walk. That is illegal.
Zimmerman cries for help. That is not illegal.
Finally Zimmerman decides to defend himself. That is not illegal.
He pulls his weapon, that he is carrying legally ,and defends himself as Florida’s [SELF DEFENCE] law allows. Zimmerman has done nothing illegal.
The aggressor was Martin who committed assault and battery on another person. That is illegal. This should never have even gone to trial.”


53 posted on 07/12/2013 1:08:53 PM PDT by yadent
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To: cquiggy

Actually I think they labeled here a black/Hispanic, which I think it means she is either black or Hispanic. I believe she’s actually quite light-skinned, IIRC.


54 posted on 07/12/2013 1:10:25 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: FlingWingFlyer

La Raza is about Indios- extraction mexican hispanics, not Peruvian-white extraction “white hispanics” There is a very definite focus with the goal of seizing California and the Southwest for Aztlan (yeah, the mayan dead). Only problem— this was all territory of Spain (and uh, they are still and were “white hispanics”).

Balkanization is never helpful in a Republic, and a disaster end point for democracy leading to dictatorship.


55 posted on 07/12/2013 1:14:49 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Dallas59

Is that Chris Farley in a wig?


56 posted on 07/12/2013 1:14:58 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Breitbart said that one of the woman wipe away a tear while the prosecution was doing their thing.


57 posted on 07/12/2013 1:15:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Never, ever underrate human stupidity. Just because there are six or twelve jurors does not mean, never ever means that collectively they could be wiser than the stupidest one of them!


58 posted on 07/12/2013 1:18:39 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: BunnySlippers

I heard that. Hopefully she will be able to feel bad about Trayvon and still realize Zimmerman is not guilty.

The jury I was on we had one guy who felt so bad about sending someone to prison he was having a hard time with the guilty verdict. The rest of us had to gently chat with him about if you do a crime you have to do the time. He came around after a little while.


59 posted on 07/12/2013 1:23:13 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Two of these jurors have CCL’s so I’m thinking a hung jury is worst case scenario. Personally I’m betting on not guilty.


If that’s the case then a conviction on any count will not be possible....


60 posted on 07/12/2013 1:28:03 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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